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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 06 March 2019 15:00UTC


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 06 March 2019 15:00UTC

ATTENDANCE

Oriol BausÃ
Kenneth Bengtsson
Kees Duvekot
CÃcile Guasch

   Regrets received in advance:

    Todd Albers
    G. Ken Holman

   Pacific call attendance

   Kenneth Bengtsson
   Martijn van den Boogaard
   G. Ken Holman (convener)
   Andrew Mitchell
   Levine Naidoo
   Steve Ryan
   Matt Vickers

   Regrets received in advance:

    Todd Albers


REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION

    - one of the following should be used as a specific citation:
      OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
      OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
    - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
      OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
    - the canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
      http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/
    - the canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
      http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
    - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
      http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370
    - the ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
      http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/


STANDING ITEMS

    Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
       - no new events to add at this time

    Review of Pacific call minutes
       https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201903/msg00002.html

    Review of Atlantic call minutes
       https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00024.html

    Membership status review
     https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
     https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
     https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80

    - voting status is determined by the following:
      - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
        maintain voting status
      - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
        voting status
      - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
        their voting status is not impacted
    - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
      - Todd Albers
        - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
          Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
      - Oriol Bausà Peris
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
      - Kenneth Bengtsson
        - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
        - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
      - Peter Borresen
        - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
      - Kees Duvekot
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the StandaardisatieÂplatform
          e-factureren
      - CÃcile Guasch
        - Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2,
          European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
      - G. Ken Holman
        - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Yves Jordan
      - Andrew Mitchell
      - Natalie Muric
      - Levine Naidoo
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, Member Fintech Australia
      - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
        - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
    - active non-voting members
      - Roberto Cisternino
        - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Matt Lewis
        - Member Blockchain Association of Australia
      - Olli Pajari
      - Steve Ryan
      - Matt Vickers
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition,
          Director US Data Coalition
    - members approaching gaining voting status after this meeting:
      - Carmelo Greco
      - Ole EllerbÃk Madsen
        - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
    - new member orientation information:
      https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647


UBL 2.2
    - UBL 2.2 OASIS Standard is published:

       http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/UBL-2.2.html

    - Ken to begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845
      - waiting again on OASIS legal counsel for feedback from ISO
    - ASN.1 alternative representations for UBL 2.1 and UBL 2.2 have been
      published for committee review before being put forward for a vote:

       https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00020.html

       - comments by March 6, voting document on March 13, 2019


UBL 2.3
    - CÃcile managing requirements for pre-award documents. A summary of changes for UBL 2.3 is ready to be shared with the TC. Cecile has send this summary of changes to Ken.
    - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
    - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
    - Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents
    - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
    - Kees designated a co-editor of UBL 2.3 and is now in charge of the
      production of the artefacts, with the assistance from Erlend as needed
    - please progress unaddressed JIRA tickets, especially the ones from
      UBL 2.2
    - remember to become watchers of a ticket in order to get push
      notifications ... for example with the ticket number in ###:

        https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-###

    - open issues at: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
    - missed the end-of 2018 deadline, trying now for an end of March
      vote on a 30-day public review to deal with feedback at the
      beginning of May
      - first draft of public review needs to be ready for February 27
      - work towards public review vote March 20 (leaves two weeks for TC
        Admin action and we cannot ask for expedited processing; ready by
        March 13 would be best)
   - subcommittee chairs are reminded of the documentation requirements for
     new UBL documents recorded in these minutes under "Documentation"
       https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00003.html
   - subcommittee process for forwarding changes to the main committee
     - subcommittee edits test spreadsheet for test schemas
     - Ken will make test schemas for the subcommittee
     - the subcommittee proposes a summary of their changes to the main
       TC in a mail message, citing your test schemas for reference
     - at a teleconference the main TC approves the changes
     - Ken adds the changes to the main spreadsheets and publish new schemas
       for public review
   - image submission
     - a revisable vector form is required (e.g. SVG)
     - a bit image form is required:
        -  width of 3425 pixels @ 600dpi = 5.7083in/14.5cm
                                         = 1712 pixels @ 300dpi


UBL Australian Localisation Subcommittee (ALSC)
    - currently running a face-to-face when calling in
    - massaging the subset model with identified issues


UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
    - nothing to report at this time


UBL Post-award
    - requested discussion of: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-182
      - comments added to the ticket itself
      - Kees is starting a proposal for how to handle the tax inclusion part of the invoice. More comments will be added to the ticket.


UBL Pre-award
    - Pre-award subcommittee meetings will commence 13th of March. First meeting will be on the 13th at 14:30 CET.
    - Any further additions or input to the Pre-award subcommittee is strongly encouraged at this time. The subcommittee will increase its efforts to a weekly meeting in order to meet the deadlines for UBL 2.3. Any input received at a later stage might not make the deadline.


UBL Small Business Subcommittee (SBSC)
    - nothing to report at this time


UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
    - Please review Peter's package: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/201903/msg00000.html
    - Changes are planned to be incorporated for the TC vote on March 13.


UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
    - nothing to report at this time


JIRA tickets
    - available filters:
         - discuss - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=15172
         - UBL 2.x - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
         - BDNDR   - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472
         - All UBL - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670
         - TCAdmin - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070

    - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components
      by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel
      - if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up
        in the summary filter

    - status and resolution values:
      - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in
              consideration or not for the development distribution
            - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee
              the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen
              in the "to do" filter
            - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
            - please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
              https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
      - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
             - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
             - please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever
               you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
      - RESOLVED + Incomplete - the issue has been decided but not yet in test
      - RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released
      - RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
      - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future
                           minor revision but not the current development
      - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution
      - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution
      - APPLIED + Fixed - the issue is included in a public review (record the
                          availability of the disposition once review opened)
      - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
                 - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for
                   backwards-incompatible changes
     - see also the discussion on the status workflows here:
        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html

    - members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so
      that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket,
      without having to find the discussion on the main mail list

    - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use
      the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter


SUBCOMMITTEE CONFERENCE CALLS

   - Australian Localisation Subcommittee will be meeting in the BDXR "off
     weeks" one hour in advance of the UBL Pacific call (00:00UTC)
   - Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at
     14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility)
   - Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at
     13:30UTC (will be using Natalie's WebEx facility)
   - other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis


FACE-TO-FACE
   - if we had a face-to-face the week of 2019-09-23 then attendees could
     continue on to Vienna for the Exchange Summit conference the following
     week (as was convenient for some members in 2018)
     - offers to host from Zwolle (NL), Copenhagen (DK)
   - do we need a face-to-face in the southern US in February/March? If so,
     who do we know who could host us or sponsor a meeting venue?
     - confirmed that we can hold a meeting in San Francisco hosted by
       Tradeshift, so we have to decide some dates
       - we cannot decide on a date until we know when the first public review
         ends, so that we can work on the result at the meeting
     - if the meeting gets pushed out to April/May then we have another
       possible host of the US Fed in Minneapolis (possibly May 6-10??)
     - can we go back to Tradeshift also regarding May 6-10 in San Francisco?
     - this would be timed after the end of our first review so that we can
       work on a second review


TC CONFERENCE CALL SCHEDULE

   2019-03-13 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
   2019-03-13 UBL Atlantic -
10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
   2019-03-20 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
   2019-03-20 UBL Atlantic -
10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
   2019-03-27 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
   2019-03-27 UBL Atlantic -
10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
   2019-04-03 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
   2019-04-03 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
   2019-04-10 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
   2019-04-10 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
   2019-04-17 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
   2019-04-17 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
   2019-04-24 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
   2019-04-24 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
   2019-05-01 UBL Pacific  -
19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
   2019-05-01 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe


   Outline of teleconference times for 2019:

      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201812/msg00000.html
      (Note the date for the Australia time change is indicated incorrectly)

   Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future?  For
   privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

   TC calendar:
   http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

   TC calendar iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50


OTHER BUSINESS

  - none

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