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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 19 May 2021 14:00UTC


Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 19 May 2021 14:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2021-05-19T14:00:00

Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Participation

 

Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)

Peter Borresen

Andrea Caccia

Ger Clancy

Paul Donohoe

Cecile Guasch

Philip Helger

Ken Holman

Yves Jordan

Ole Madsen

 

Pacific call:

 

Todd Albers

Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)

Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

Kees Duvekot

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3 CS01

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.3/

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Publishing tools

 

Peter has offered to help with spreadsheet maintenance. Kees and Cecile have offered to help with editorship and maintenance.

 

Previous repositories have been replaced with a single repository where both artefacts and the hub documents are maintained simultaneously for the production of a complete distribution package and an archive package:

-  https://github.com/oasis-tcs/ubl/tree/review#readme

 

Those who have volunteered to help with editing and maintenance, please test the above and provide feedback. Please report any issues regarding problems with the data.

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

Nothing

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202105/msg00016.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202105/msg00009.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Todd Albers

o Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Peter Borresen

o DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7

-  Andrea Caccia

o Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT, chair OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Ger Clancy

-  Paul Donohoe

-  Kees Duvekot

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie­platform e-factureren

-  Cecile Guasch

o Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)

-  G. Ken Holman

o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Yves Jordan

-  Ole Madsen

o DK Member CEN/TC440

-  Natalie Muric

-  Levine Naidoo

o Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML

 

TC Vitality Check

The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2023.

Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

 

UBL 2.3

 

ISO submission

 

Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:

https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html

 

ISO requirements being discussed here: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240

 

UBL 2.3 Candidate OASIS Standard

 

A Special Majority Vote to approve UBL 2.3 CSD05 with non-material changes as CS02 and to approve submitting it for a call for consent for approval as an OASIS Standard is now open until 25 May 2021 at 23:59 UTC:

 

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/ballot.php?id=3623

 

Do we need to produce a CS02 for publishing? Kenneth will consult TC Admin.

 

Pipeline

 

Gathering of requirements

 

ICT Standardization supporting Circular Economy in the European Union, investigate if there are gaps between UBL and ongoing efforts:

-  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202101/msg00023.html

-  https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/44089?locale=en

Are there similar initiatives in other regions?

Proposed to track and develop this item under the post-award SC. Should we create a Product Master Data SC to develop this work? The Product Master Data SC could also maintain other work products, such as the Product Passport.

 

JSON specification

 

Based on a discussion among interested members, Ken has drafted a proposal for a new text with three JSON modes, legacy-mode, schema-mode and instance-mode: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202103/msg00007.html

 

Agreed to submit the BDNDRs for a new public review with the changes proposed by Ken. Will be done after 2.3 is finalized.

 

JIRA tickets

 

The following deferred tickets have been opened for 2.4:

-  More dedicated document references in Reminder: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-177

-  Adding DueDate in Reminder: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-196

-  Need for two extra document types for information diffusion: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-232

-  Cardinality of CallForTendersDocumentReference in CatalogueLine and TenderLine: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-300

 

UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)

 

Nothing

 

UBL Post-award

 

From https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-182 (TaxInclusiveLineExtensionAmount ticket): should we add tax inclusive amounts to other ABIEs, such as TaxSubtotal, TaxTotal, AllowanceCharge, etc.? See also https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-217 and https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-218.

 

UBL Pre-award

 

Nothing

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

New requirements from mapping to UN/CEFACT eCMR and from CEN TC 440. Peter will open JIRA tickets.

 

UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)

 

Nothing

 

Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

 

Need for two extra document types for information diffusion on (1) grouping formation/liquidation (2) Company / Cooperative society Registration/Deletion/Transfer: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-232, is there anything that needs to be added to 2.4?

 

New document Business Registration Information Notification: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-326, is this a requirement for 2.4?

 

TC Liaisons

 

ISO TC 204/WG7

 

Agreed at the September 11, 2019 TC conference call to seek a formal liaison with ISO TC 204/WG7 specifically for collaborating on the new ISO 24533 specification.

 

We need to appoint a liaison, preferably someone who is a member of both groups. See also: https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#liaisons

 

Agreed to stop trailing this as we haven’t been able to identify a liaison officer. Kenneth will contact TC204/WG7.

 

CEN TC 434

 

Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

 

CEN informs that a liaison cannot be established at TC level. OASIS has responded and is looking into whether an organizational liaison can be established.

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

 

Next SC 32 meeting will be held June 14 (plenary) and June 18 (closing). OASIS has responded and is following up with the SC 32 secretariat.

 

GitHub instance for UBL 2.4 work

 

Work on UBL 2.4 will be done in the existing “ubl” GitHub instance. Members interested in working on branches, please send Ken your GitHub account name and associated email address. At least every subcommittee chair should be a maintainer.

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Organisational Master Data SC will be meeting biweekly on Wednesdays at 13:00 CET.

-  Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis

 

Face-to-face

 

Should we have an online launch session for UBL 2.4? Items to be discussed: How can we improve usability and interoperability.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Call schedule

 

Agreed to move the Pacific call to one hour later from April 6 when Australia goes back to standard time.

 

Agreed at the March 17 call to put conference calls on hold while in public review. Next scheduled meeting is April 20/April 21 (Pacific/Atlantic).

 

Any member of the TC may request that conference calls be resumed if for any reason we need to convene before

 

2021-05-25/2021-05-26

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-05-25/2021-05-26

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-06-01/2021-06-02

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-06-08/2021-06-09

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-06-15/2021-06-16

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-06-22/2021-06-23

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-06-29/2021-06-30

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-07-06/2021-07-07

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-07-13/2021-07-14

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-07-20/2021-07-21

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-07-27/2021-07-28

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-08-03/2021-08-04

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-08-10/2021-08-11

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-08-17/2021-08-18

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2021-08-24/2021-08-25

-  Pacific: 17:00MSP/00:00Europe/18:00Ottawa/22:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-  Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

iCal subscription link: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50

 

Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

 

Other business

 

Nothing

 



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