Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 30 November 2022 15:00UTC

[Kenneth Bengtsson <kbengtsson@efact.pe>]

Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 30 November 2022 15:00UTC

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2022-11-30T15:00:00

Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

 

Participation

 

Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)

Peter Borresen

Martin Forsberg

Cecile Guasch

Yves Jordan

Wim Kok

Ole Madsen

Natalie Muric

 

Pacific call:

 

Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)

Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

Kees Duvekot

Ken Holman

 

Regrets:

 

Levine Naidoo

 

Referencing the specification

 

One of the following should be used as a specific citation:

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2

-  OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)

The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:

-  OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)

The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/

The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/

The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:

-  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/

The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:

-  http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370

The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:

-  http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/

 

Standing items

 

Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events

Nothing

 

Wikipedia page

Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language

 

Review of Pacific call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202211/msg00010.html

 

Review of Atlantic call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202211/msg00008.html

 

Membership status review

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership

 

New member orientation information:

https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647

 

Voting status is determined by the following:

-  existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status

-  non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status

-  members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted

 

Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):

 

-  Kenneth Bengtsson

o  Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT

-  Erlend Klakegg Bergheim

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8

-  Andrea Caccia

-  Paul Donohoe

-  Kees Duvekot

o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie­platform e-factureren

-  G. Ken Holman

o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC

-  Yves Jordan

-  Ole Madsen

o DK Member CEN/TC440

-  Levine Naidoo

 

Members gaining voting status after this meeting:

-  Martin Forsberg

 

TC Vitality Check

The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2023.

Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.

 

UBL 2.4

 

Timeline

 

Plan to finalize a draft 2.4 before the end year.

 

Open issues

 

Issues for UBL 2.4 are being tracked here: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=16172

 

Received input from CEN TC434 for https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-350: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/202211/msg00000.html

-  Need to work through requirements in document

-  Kenneth will put document in a shared TC access only Google drive

 

Requirements not yet accepted into 2.4

 

-  Will there be input from the PCDS project for 2.4?

-  From https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-182 (TaxInclusiveLineExtensionAmount ticket): should we add tax inclusive amounts to other ABIEs, such as TaxSubtotal, TaxTotal, AllowanceCharge, etc.? See also https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-217 and https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-218. Will this be required for 2.4?

-  New requirements for documenting customs bonds in UBL instances, will these be submitted for 2.4?

-  Any new requirements from Peppol Logistics for 2.4?

-  Will customs alignment with WCO requirements be submitted for 2.4?

-  Requirements from European EFTI, reporting transportation documents to authorities.

 

Any new requirements for UBL 2.4?

 

Issues not making it into 2.4

 

-  Denmark is working on new requirements for adding TCO calculations to UBL. This will not be prioritized for UBL 2.4

-  New requirements for a Letter of Credit will not be prioritized for UBL 2.4.

 

Preparation of ISO submission

 

Harm Jan will follow up with Jamie to see if RFC normative language can be submitted to ISO.

 

Submitting the specification to ISO:

-  Option 1: Will ISO consider a submission in XML format? Ken will explore options.

o UBL is being considered for participation in a pilot project to allow submission in XML format

-  Option 2: Will it be possible to convert from our current format to ISO Word template?

-  Option 3: Work in OASIS Word template. Will OASIS TC Admin then convert to ISO Word template? Kenneth will contact TC Admin.

 

Publishing and editing

 

Who will serve as editor(s)? Kees has offered to help with editorship and maintenance, Kenneth will maintain the main spreadsheets. SC spreadsheet versions will be created upon request (currently only TSC).

 

Work will be done in the existing “ubl” GitHub instance in the branch ubl-2.4-csd01wd01. Documentation available here: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/ubl/tree/review#readme

 

JSON/API Pilot project

 

How will we structure the work?

-  Can we do this in the TC itself? Or do we need a subcommittee?

-  Kenneth will send out a Doodle to find a timeslot for a dedicated meeting. Will be in December.

 

UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)

 

Nothing

 

UBL Post-award

 

Nothing

 

UBL Pre-award

 

Pre-award will meet December 7 to discuss https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-340.

 

UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)

 

Minutes of last meeting available here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/202211/msg00000.html

 

The TSC has opened a Doodle to select a timeslot for its next meeting, see: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-tsc/202211/msg00001.html

 

Organisation Master Data Subcommittee

 

Who can serve as liaison officer ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the UBL TC for facilitating work on the PCDS?

 

Kenneth will go through the spreadsheets produced by the Organisation Master Data SC to vet the work that was done.

 

Product Passport: Need a meeting to coordinate efforts. Kenneth will coordinate with with OASIS.

 

TC Liaisons

 

CEN TC 434

 

Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.

 

CEN informs that a liaison cannot be established at TC level. OASIS is contacting CEN to set up a TC liaison.

 

There is communication between CEN and OASIS and the establishment of the liaison is being prioritized.

 

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1

 

Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html

 

This year’s SC 32 meeting was held in June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Harm Jan will follow up with Jamie to see what the status is.

 

Subcommittee conference calls

 

-  Organisational Master Data SC will be meeting biweekly on Wednesdays at 15:00 CET.

-  Transportation Subcommittee is looking for a new weekly timeslot.

-  Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.

 

Face-to-face

 

Nothing planned.

 

TC conference call schedule

 

Call schedule

 

2022-12-06/2022-12-07

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2022-12-13/2022-12-14

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2022-12-20/2022-12-21

-   Pacific: 15:00MSP/22:00Europe/16:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney

-   Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2022-12-27/2022-12-28

-   Tentatively cancelled

 

TC calendar

 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl

 

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Other business

 

None