RE: [regrep] RE: [uddi-spec] ebXML Registry / UDDI Convergence

[Tom Bellwood <bellwood@us.ibm.com>]

Anne,

My perspective is that there isn't really sufficient reason to pursue a
convergence of these specifications, primarily for all of the reasons that
David Weber mentioned in your attached, but also because UDDI was and
continues to be intended as an efficient, highly focused registry solution
for Web services.   I view ebXML as broader and less uni-focused in this
regard.   I think there are certainly some valuable concepts in one that
might make sense in the other, but that alone does not indicate a merge is
appropriate.

I think your approach of doing work to define a set of related Technical
Notes and UDDI tModels to describe ebXML registries is a good one that our
TC should probably pursue, along with a large number of other Technical
Notes which were dropped due to the timing of the move to OASIS.


Thanks,
Tom Bellwood       Phone:  (512) 838-9957 (external);   TL:  678/9957
(internal)
Senior Technical Staff Member
Emerging Technologies
IBM Corporation


Anne Thomas Manes <anne@manes.net> on 09/27/2002 09:36:45 AM

To:    David RR Webber - XMLGlobal <Gnosis_@compuserve.com>
cc:    uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org, "'Matthew MacKenzie'"
       <matt@xmlglobal.com>, "Von Riegen, Claus"
       <claus.von.riegen@sap.com>, regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:    RE: [regrep] RE: [uddi-spec] ebXML Registry / UDDI Convergence



I would certainly propose a few technical notes. (I co-authored one for
ebXML a while ago which spoke about using UDDI to find ebXML registries.) I
proposed a much more extensive effort to create a set of UDDI tModels that
describe ebXML registries, the APIs to access ebXML registries, as well as
uddi-org:types categorizations to represent ebXML services, but I was met
by
quite a bit of resistance from the ebXML team.

I'd propose that we start a joint subcommittee to explore integration
strategies.

Anne

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber - XMLGlobal [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:55 AM
> To: Anne Thomas Manes
> Cc: uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Matthew MacKenzie'; Von Riegen,
> Claus; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [regrep] RE: [uddi-spec] ebXML Registry / UDDI Convergence
>
>
> Anne,
>
> I think everyone assumes these are competing - but actually I'm
> seeing different models here.
>
> It's not clear cut for people right now however, because
> we've not formally articulated missions and business focus.
>
> Nor have we really focused on how these two systems
> could be complimentary / co-exist in unison.
>
> Sure they can be purposed to do many of the same things,
> but I believe the audiences are different - especially
> around the deployment models.
>
> So people may choose one over the other, or both,
> depending on their business needs.  We need a
> PPT at a minimum as a discussion point so that
> people can understand what each world looks like
> today.
>
> I also see an obvious first step to create an interop' API
> between the two with the simple goal of being able
> to link (read-only) from an entry in one to an entry in
> the other.  This is probably doable already today - but
> we should formally write it up and have it go thru the
> normal OASIS process.
>
> One good place to start is an adoption and setup
> guide.  What it takes to install, configure and operate
> each system, and what types of content get stored.
>
> Right there I believe we can see alot of the business
> differences.
>
> Thanks, DW.
> ===================================================
> Message text written by Anne Thomas Manes
> >
> IMHO, it hurts us to have two competing standards. Convergence would be a
> good thing. I don't expect it to be easy, though.
>
> Anne<
>


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