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Subject: Re: [uddi-spec] Use of UDDI.org as a means of promoting TC, UBR, Std Group and Consortium tModels and Value Sets
I have been thinking about this sort of thing lately, and it seems related to the W3C TAG's namespaceDocument issue [1]. Need a TN/BP like the WSDL BP, where a tModel overviewURL points to a RDDL [2] file, which then can point to all sort of things. The machine-readable rddl:nature and rddl:purpose attributes are machine readable and can be used by apps to get to more appropriate links (e.g., to download a taxonomy in OWL). This proposed RDDL TN would require a taxonomy [3] with keyValue="rddlSpec" to be included in the categoryBag of tModels whose overviewURL point to a RDDL file. We may also want tModels whose overviewURL is a URI used for the rddl:nature or rddl:purpose; these tModels' categoryBag might have keyValue="rddl:nature" and rddl:purpose, respectively. That way I can search for tModels whose categoryBag is a rddl:nature. Since rddl:nature attribute values are URIs, and it might have a RDDL file, the same tModel may also be classified as rddlSpec (if I can do HTTP GET on the overviewURL and retrieve a RDDL file). I started creating the tModels [3][4] and an example to illustrate this, but I ran into the issue of publishing tModels that use unchecked taxonomies in their categoryBag. That is, UBR browser interfaces do not support it. So I went looking [5] for an existing tool rather than develop an app that uses the SOAP publish API. So currently my example [4] is not yet classified using [3]. My 2 cents worth. [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#namespaceDocument-8 [2] http://www.tbray.org/tag/rddl4.html [3] http://uddi.ibm.com/ubr/uddiget?tModelKey=UUID:49BE0F40-E9F9-11D7-B602-000629DC0A53 [4] http://uddi.ibm.com/ubr/uddiget?tModelKey=UUID:CF27BCB0-E9FB-11D7-B602-000629DC0A53 [5] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/uddi-spec/200309/msg00024.html Paul At 08:02 PM 2003-09-22, Max Voskob wrote: >Luc, > >We have no control over the overview document, it's format, content and >availability. >I think it is quite important to single out "How to obtain the taxonomy" >bit and make sure that it is not hidden deep in the huge document. > >I'm happy to write a brief doco on what should be in the overview >document, but I don't think many will follow it. I'll give it a try. > >Cheers, >Max > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:lclement@windows.microsoft.com>Luc Clement >To: <mailto:max.voskob@paradise.net.nz>Max Voskob ; ><mailto:uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org>uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org >Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:43 AM >Subject: RE: [uddi-spec] Use of UDDI.org as a means of promoting TC, UBR, >Std Group and Consortium tModels and Value Sets > >Shouldn't this information (i.e. the URL to the value set) be available in >the overviewDoc rather? I think so. We may want to provide guidance on the >page suggesting what an overviewDoc for a category or identifier system >should look like. > >Could you please take a moment and put something together? > >Cheers... and thanks for volunteering ;-) > >Luc > > >---------- >From: Max Voskob [mailto:max.voskob@paradise.net.nz] >Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 16:20 >To: <mailto:uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org>uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: Re: [uddi-spec] Use of UDDI.org as a means of promoting TC, UBR, >Std Group and Consortium tModels and Value Sets > >Luc, > >I would suggest to require a URL to the source code of the taxonomy (in >some format - up to the publisher) or a URL to a resource on how to obtain >the taxonomy source code. > >Cheers, >Max > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:lclement@windows.microsoft.com>Luc Clement >To: <mailto:uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org>uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org >Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:48 AM >Subject: RE: [uddi-spec] Use of UDDI.org as a means of promoting TC, UBR, >Std Group and Consortium tModels and Value Sets > >Many will recall this mail and the ensuing discussion. I took an AR to >make to update the prototype proposed and would like to offer this update >to the TC for re-consideration. > >I would like to add this topic as a new agenda item. Please review either >of the Word or HTML versions of the document and offer your comments. If >the TC will agree with the prototype and the approach, I would like us to >request comments from the Steering Committee and an update to the UDDI.org >Member Section web site. > >Luc Clément >Microsoft >Co-chair, OASIS UDDI Spec TC > >---------- >From: Luc Clement [mailto:lclement@windows.microsoft.com] >Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 17:45 >To: uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: [uddi-spec] Use of UDDI.org as a means of promoting TC, UBR, Std >Group and Consortium tModels and Value Sets > >(Apologies for my last and premature mail) > >A few meetings ago, the topic of where to post non-normative tModels came >up in a discussion; we never concluded this discussion. I'd like to revive >it and obtain your input on the following. >Background >As some of you may know, during the course of the v3 spec development, we >removed from the spec those tModels and value sets that were not >considered appropriate to make normative in favour of having the UDDI >Business Registry (UBR) to manage these. They include the following: >1 UDDI Business Registry Value Set tModels: Category System, Identifier >Systems and Categorization Groups > >1.1 North American Industry Classification System (NAICS) 1997 Release >1.2 United Nations Standard Products and Services Code System (UNSPSC) >Version 7.3 >1.3 ISO 3166 Geographic Code System >1.4 ISO 3166 Code Derivation for Business Locations >1.5 ISO 3166 and UNSPSC Code Group System >1.6 World Geodetic System 1984 >1.7 WGS 84 Latitude Code System >1.8 WGS 84 Longitude Code System >1.9 WGS 84 Altitude Code System >1.10 Geographic Precision Code System >1.11 UDDI Business Registry Postal Address Structure >1.12 Dun & Bradstreet D-U-N-S® Number Identifier System >1.13 Thomas Register Supplier Identifier Code System >1.14 ISO 6523 International Code Designator (ICD) System > >2 UDDI Business Registry Core tModels > >2.1 Domain Key Generator for the UDDI Business Registry Domain >2.2 UDDI JIS X 4061 Japanese sortOrder qualifier > >The UBR's Operator's Council is currently in the process of reviewing >these tModels in support of its UDDI v3 deployment work. This topic is >long overdue. > >TC, Standards Groups and Consortium Needs >As we've discussed and continue to encounter, the TC, other standards >groups and consortium need a place where they can collect and promulgate >the existence of their tModels and value sets (e.g. WSDL v2 TN, ebXML TN, >etc). > >Proposal >The UBR Operator's Council is considering asking the UDDI Steering >Committee to post UBR tModels on UDDI.org. At the same time, the OC >discussed the need/desire for the TC/Consortium to have a similar forum >and thought that we should consult the TC. > >To this end, the OC has created a prototype page to be added to the >UDDI.org site; please find it attached. The prototype suggests the >addition of a "Common tModels" navigation link which displays the content >of the attached. > >Please review this prototype. This matter will be put on the agenda for >the next TC call. > >Action Required >A. The OC is soliciting your support and interest for this; while it can >proceed independently from the TC, it would be best to coordinate this. > >B. We need to discuss the criteria for what gets published on the page; I >would expect the Steering Committee to be the gate keeper but they would >require guidance from the TC on matter of criteria > > >As a next step once we complete this discussion and if the TC is >favourable to posting such information, the next step would be for the TC >(and the OC) to make a request to the UDDI-SC asking for this content to >be posted. > >For your consideration. > >Luc > >Luc Clément >Microsoft >Co-chair, OASIS UDDI Spec TC > > > > >---------- >To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of >the OASIS TC), go to >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/uddi-spec/members/leave_workgroup.php.
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