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Subject: Fw: [regrep] UDDI FAQ entry on ebXML Registry
I would suggest to drop the entry about ebXML Reg/Rep in our FAQ Another option could be just to say that we are not them and thier URL is ... Cheers, Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> To: "Rex Brooks" <rexb@starbourne.com> Cc: "Anne Thomas Manes" <anne@manes.net>; "Berry Nicholas F" <nicholas.f.berry@boeing.com>; "Farrukh Najmi" <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>; <regrep@lists.oasis-open.org>; "Luc Clément" <luc@iclement.net> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2004 03:34 Subject: Re: [regrep] UDDI FAQ entry on ebXML Registry > Please see comments inline [JMC]. > > Rex Brooks wrote: > > > > Why not add a note to the effect the ebXML and UDDI are interoperable > > and can be used in a complementary fashion. > > [JMC] What does "complementary" mean here? > > > You might want to coordinate these FAQ messages with the UDDI TC's FAQ > > and identify areas where both say ebXML and UDDI each are designed > > with a particular market segment in mind, > > [JMC] I respectfully recommend we stay away from mentioning market > segments for this purpose, especially because many folks have different > views of a what a "market segment" means (I personally was thinking more > of verticals such as health care, finance, etc.) > > [End of JMC comments] > > with ebXML specifically > > serving Business and Government in a wider focus beyond Web Services, > > which explains why ebXML provides a registry and repository, while > > UDDI focuses more on the Business in general and Web Services in > > particular, and does not provide a repository in favor of allowing > > particular Business Segments to be served by more specialized > > repositories provided by Business interests? Both ebXML and and UDDI > > can each say that there specifications serve the complete spectrum, so > > that neither is perceived as being so limited that either Business or > > Government segments need to use both, but can choose to do so in order > > to take advantage of the more specialized interaction channels > > provided. > > > > I, for one, would like to see the implicit competition dissolve and/or > > change into cooperation and coordination. FWIW, I recognize that the > > Business side has more adamant adherents who have actively pursued the > > ascendency of their more limited (read centralized and > > platform-specific) focus. In their defense, I think it is wise to > > recognize that it is also due to company-specific myopia, and a > > reluctance to accept the necessity of supporting a wider range of > > interests (more work) rather than monopolistic practices per se. That > > is also not to say that some unnamed parties are largely incapable of > > acting outside of their monopolistic default state unless prompted by > > market conditions or legal action. > > > > Ciao, > > Rex > > > > At 7:33 PM -0500 1/15/04, Anne Thomas Manes wrote: > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > The ebXML Registry is a constituent of the Electronic Business using > > > XML (ebXML) standard, which develops standards and protocols to > > > support business-to-business (B2B) operations. The ebXML Registry TC > > > has defined a registry specification, known as ebXML Reg/Rep, for > > > publishing and discovering shareable content and metadata. The ebXML > > > Reg/Rep is both a registry and a repository. Although designed to > > > support the discovery requirements for ebXML, the ebXML Reg/Rep may > > > be used as a general-purpose registry and repository. > > > > > > The UDDI specification defines a registry service focused on > > > supporting the requirements for publishing and discovering Web > > > services. UDDI does not include a repository. Although designed to > > > support the discovery requirements for Web services, UDDI may be > > > used as a general-purpose registry. > > > > > > > > > At 11:14 AM 1/15/2004, Berry, Nicholas F wrote: > > > > > >> Most of my critique of Farrukh's FAQ statement is grammatical. > > >> > > >> My comments/changes are in red. I would have used "strikeout" but > > >> my Outlook program has disabled it for some reason. Hence, I've > > >> included Farrukh's original beneath mine for reference. Thanks > > >> for putting up with a lurker's comments. > > >> > > >> --Nicholas > > >> > > >> <Nicholas> > > >> The ebXML Registry is a constituent of the Electronic Business > > >> using XML (ebXML) standard, which develops standards and protocols > > >> to support business-to-business (B2B) operations. The ebXML > > >> Registry TC has defined a general purpose registry specification*, > > >> known as ebXML Reg/Rep, for publishing and discovering shareable** > > >> content and metadata***. The ebXML Reg/Rep is both a registry and > > >> a repository. > > >> > > >> UDDI, managed by the UDDI Spec TC, is focused as a registry > > >> service for Web services and its artifacts. [I don't believe it's > > >> wise for Reg/Rep to attempt a definition of UDDI in this > > >> particular space....leave that for the ebXML FAQ. I'd strike this > > >> entire sentence.] > > >> > > >> UDDI and ebXML Registries may be used both within the organization > > >> and across organizations. > > > > > >> > > >> *"service" is a loaded word these days. > > >> **"arbitrary" connotes whimsical or meaningless; I don't think > > >> it's in our interest to state that we deal with "arbitrary" > > >> information. However, I do believe one of the most pertinent > > >> aspects of the ebXML Registry is that it shares information, and > > >> you don't mention that here. > > >> ***Is there a requirement somewhere that metadata registered in an > > >> ebXML registry be "standardized"? I don't believe so, except to > > >> the extent that it be useful to at least two parties, and they > > >> agree on both the semantic meaning and structural integrity of > > >> such metadata. However, I couldn't think of a modifier that > > >> encapsulated that idea. > > >> </Nicholas> > > >> > > >> <Farrukh> > > >> ebXML Registry is a constituant part of the Electronic Business > > >> using XML (ebXML) standard, which develops standards and protocols > > >> to support business-to-business (B2B) operations. The ebXML > > >> Registry TC has defined a general purpose registry service for > > >> publishing and discovery of arbitrary content and standardized > > >> metadata, known as ebXML Reg/Rep. ebXML Reg/Rep is both a registry > > >> and a repository. > > >> > > >> UDDI, managed by the UDDI Spec TC, is focused as a registry > > >> service for Web services and its artifacts. > > >> > > >> Both UDDI and ebXML Registry may be used within the organization > > >> and across organizations. > > >> </Farrukh> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:anne@manes.net] > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:12 AM > > >> To: Farrukh Najmi; regrep@lists.oasis-open.org > > >> Cc: Luc Clément > > >> Subject: Re: [regrep] UDDI FAQ entry on ebXML Registry > > >> > > >> > > >> Farrukh, > > >> > > >> Your characterization of UDDI is inaccurate. UDDI is a > > >> general-purpose > > >> registry. (We have a technical note that explains how to use UDDI > > >> as a > > >> registry for ebXML services.) It can also be used to register Web > > >> sites, > > >> Non-Web applications, schemas, namespaces, software assets, > > >> non-electronic > > >> services, etc. I know a number of users that use UDDI as a > > >> software asset > > >> management system. > > >> > > >> Obviously there is a tremendous amount of overlap between the > > >> capabilities > > >> of the two registries. The one significant difference between the > > >> two is > > >> that RegRep is both a registry and a repository, and UDDI is only > > >> a registry. > > >> > > >> Anne > > >> > > >> At 10:02 AM 1/14/2004, Farrukh Najmi wrote: > > >> > > >> >Team, > > >> > > > >> >The UDDI TC has the following question in their FAQ: > > >> > > > >> >8. How does UDDI compare with the work of the OASIS ebXML > > >> Registry TC? > > >> > > > >> >I was helping Luc scrub the answer to the question. With Luc's > > >> >permission > > >> >I post the latest answer below. > > >> >The description below seems reasonable to me. Does any one have > > >> any comments? > > >> > > > >> >My thanks to Luc for his responsiveness on this subject. > > >> > > > >> >BTW maybe we should consider having the exact same question and > > >> answer > > >> >in > > >> >our FAQ (with Luc's permission)? > > >> > > > >> >-- > > >> >Regards, > > >> >Farrukh > > >> > > > >> >>ebXML Registry is a constituant part of the Electronic Business > > >> using > > >> >>XML > > >> >>(ebXML) standard, which develops standards and protocols to > > >> support > > >> >>business-to-business (B2B) operations. The ebXML Registry TC has > > >> defined > > >> >>a general purpose registry service for publishing and discovery > > >> of > > >> >>arbitrary content and standardized metadata, known as ebXML > > >> Reg/Rep. > > >> >>ebXML Reg/Rep is both a registry and a repository. > > >> >> > > >> >>UDDI, managed by the UDDI Spec TC, is focused as a registry > > >> service > > >> >>for > > >> >>Web services and its artifacts. > > >> >> > > >> >>Both UDDI and ebXML Registry may be used within the organization > > >> and > > >> >>across organizations. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > > >> roster > > >> >of > > >> >the OASIS TC), go to > > >> >http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup .php. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > > >> roster of the OASIS TC), go to > > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > >> > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > > > roster of the OASIS TC), go to > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > > -- > > > > Rex Brooks > > GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth > > W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com > > Email: rexb@starbourne.com > > Tel: 510-849-2309 > > Fax: By Request > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/regrep/members/leave_workgroup.php. > >
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