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Subject: RE: [uddi-spec] Web Services Security Scenarios - Use Case


Andrew,

 

Could you expand a little on what the issue is with trust ? I just assumed users could choose to trust the UDDI Implementation according to its certificate. Are you talking about the trust of the UDDI information, or the trust involved in the actual ws-security web service ?

 

I can’t see why we would want to model the abstract security aspect, surely the concrete technology used is what is needed here ?

 

Dave Prout

BT

 


From: Andrew Hately [mailto:hately@us.ibm.com]
Sent: 07 June 2005 21:23
To: Prout,DA,Dave,XKR3 R
Cc: uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [uddi-spec] Web Services Security Scenarios - Use Case

 


I think what we need to dig into is what protocols and methods, either in band or out of band, are being used to establish trust.  

Once we can determine where trust is established in each use case, we need to look at what is persisted for each party to represent that trust (such as a key, a keyStore, a trusted root) and that should lead to what types of queries would be used and what would be out of band to the query to the registry.  This should also establish what roles the registry will play and what cases should only be addressed with trusted data or trusted registry connections.  It is particularly the references to including actual credentials or keys as opposed to storing key services or key providers that could require a different trust model.

I also believe we need to determine if the use cases require that we model the abstract security aspect such as identity assertion through id/password or model only the concrete security technology such as ws-security username token, or that we model both abstract aspects/capabilities and the concrete technology used.

Can you expand on your use case to discuss some of the above?

Regards,

Andrew Hately
IBM Software Group, Emerging Technologies


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Hi,
 
At the last meeting Luc asked me to send some use cases that could inform our discussion on how to decorate a service in UDDI with its WS-Security requirements.
 
The WS-I Security Challenges, Threats and Countermeasures Version 1.0 document provides useful background http://www.ws-i.org/Profiles/BasicSecurity/SecurityChallenges-1.0.pdf
 
I’d like to start off with one use case, to see if it is the sort of thing we want.
The use case is buying something over the web in a secure way, with a confidential response.
In this case the credit card number is signed with the sender’s private key, so they send their public key with the request so that the receiver can validate the signature. The credit card details must also be encrypted with the receiver’s public key, (after being signed). The response must be encrypted with the sender’s public key (which was sent on the request).
 
Please let me know if the use case should be set out in a different way.
 
We can easily extract simpler cases from this one.
 
Regards
 
Dave Prout
BT
 
 
 
 

 



From: Luc Clement [mailto:luc.clement@systinet.com]
Sent:
27 May 2005 00:02
To:
'Oleg Mikulinsky'
Cc:
'Rogers, Tony'; uddi-spec@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
[uddi-spec] RE: Request to become UDDI Specification working group member

 
Welcome aboard Oleg. For the purpose of your records, you will obtain voting rights the lesser of 3 TC meetings or the 28 July 2004.
 
The next TC call is at 15:30ET on 14 June.
 
Luc
 
Luc Clément | Co-Chair OASIS UDDI TC | Senior Program Manager | Systinet Corporation |
One van de Graaff Drive Burlington, MA 01803
Phone +1 781.362.1330 | Mobile +1 978.793.2162 | Fax +1 781.362.1400 |
 
 

 



From: Oleg Mikulinsky [mailto:oleg.mikulinsky@weblayers.com]
Sent:
Thursday, May 26, 2005 18:52
To:
Luc Clement
Cc:
Rogers, Tony
Subject:
RE: Request to become UDDI Specification working group member

 
Luc,
 
I intent to join as a prospective member and obtain voting rights per OASIS process. Look forward meeting you all (virtually). ;)
 
Regards,
Oleg.
 
 

 



From: Luc Clement [mailto:luc.clement@systinet.com]
Sent:
Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:38 PM
To:
Oleg Mikulinsky
Cc:
'Rogers, Tony'
Subject:
RE: Request to become UDDI Specification working group member

Oleg,
 
Please read the following and reply to this email confirming your intention to join as a Prospective Member. You should note that as an Observer you can provide input which may satisfy your needs. If however you intend to obtain voting rights, then you need to join as a Prospective Member which requires you to obtain and maintain good standing. Please take a moment to look over the membership rules (along with the requirements to obtain and maintain good standing): Participation and membership: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#2.4 and termination: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#2.5.  Please also review the OASIS IPR policy (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#2.17) – it is necessary that you fully understand the implications of the OASIS IPR policy.
 
To conclude, please reply with your intention of joining either as a prospective member or maintaining a status of observer. We look forward to your participation.
 
Luc
 
Luc Clément | Co-Chair OASIS UDDI TC | Senior Program Manager | Systinet Corporation |
One van de Graaff Drive Burlington, MA 01803
Phone +1 781.362.1330 | Mobile +1 978.793.2162 | Fax +1 781.362.1400 |
 

 



From: Oleg Mikulinsky [mailto:oleg.mikulinsky@weblayers.com]
Sent:
Thursday, May 26, 2005 18:13
To:
Luc Clement; Rogers, Tony
Subject:
Request to become UDDI Specification working group member

 
Gentlemen,
 
I would like to join UDDI Specification group as a member.
 
I have been in observer role in UDDI group for about a month now, as well as a contributing member to the OASIS SOA-RM. group.
And I have been reading recent thread's about describing service related policies in UDDI with a great interest.
In the last couple of years, I was involved with several UDDI deployments as principal consultant / architect, as well as authored several architecture specifications, policies and best practices for fortune 500 companies.
I believe I have knowledge and expedience to contribute to this group.
 
Best regards,
 
Oleg Mikulinsky
Director of Enterprise Architecture
WebLayers, Inc.



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