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Subject: Many Questions
Greetings! First let me say "job well done". From what I've seen on the OASIS wiki, the units ml is quite a capable piece of work, seeming to cover all the bases. My biggest curiousity/concern is <Unit/>, which contains no <Dimensions/>. I gather that <Quantity/> is supposed to be a grouping of units, all of which have the same dimensions and which measure along the same conceptual axis. My XML Schema skills may be a little lacking, but isn't the multiplicity of <UnitReference/> set to one? Does that mean that there's only one unit per quantity? What if I have lots of units to measure...well, "length"? :) I think this is an easy fix (maxOccurs="unbounded"). Secondly, if <Dimensions/> is to live with <Quantity/> instead of with each individual <Unit/>, an external application (like a spreadsheet) will be unable to accept a simple <UnitReference/> to get at the dimensions. (Because <QuantityReference/> is optional inside <Unit/>.) It seems to me that this is backwards. <Dimensions/> should always be accessible from <Unit/>s with a minimum amount of work, to enable rapid dimensional checking by the application (probably the most frequent operation). Otherwise, a unit-enabled application must have access to a complete <Quantity/> database and will continually be querying "Which quantity contains Unit X?" before it can even check the dimensional consistency of the expression. (Yes, I know the situation is not quite so bad if the <QuantityReference/>s are provided, but all applications must be *prepared* to query incessantly.) A correllary is that all <Quantity/>s referenced from the same <Unit/> must contain the same <Dimensions/>. Long story short, can we please put <Dimensions/> in <Unit/>? :) Thirdly, has any thought been given to explicitly making the system extensible? For instance, adding (or allowing to be added) a "monetaryValue" child of <Dimensions/>? Monetary value (e.g., currency, stocks, etc.) is the only "extra" I can think of right now, but there may be others. Salient characteristics are: it's orthogonal to the SI base quantities and is frequently combined with them (cents per mile, dollars per gallon, dollars per hour, dollars per person-month, dollars per bag of gummy bears.) Currency isn't special; it's a unit just like any other. It's just not a physical unit. Hmmm...if you make <Conversions/> into something with an external reference, someone could even setup a web service which always exported a <Float64ConversionFrom/> (horrible name) element populated with the current exchange rate. Probably should add a timestamp too. Urgh--distracted. In any case, it seems that adding currency would be a trivial modification. If you elect not to, you should feel encouraged to "leave a hole" so that others can. :) Perhaps something to consider is specifying "conformance levels" where implementors could elect to handle "physical units" or "physical units+currency" or "currency". Is there an "explanation document" in the works, which might explain how to handle certain use cases? For instance, I can have "ppm of CO2", which is not at all interconvertable with "ppm of Ar", and which is only interconvertible with "ppm of O2" and "ppm of CO" via a chemical reaction. (e.g. <SpecialConversion/>) Are these in fact different units? Is "ppm" a <Quantity/> which can contain many mutually non-interconvertible units (CO2, Ar, CO)? Should <Quantity/> be heirarchical: "scalar begat concentration which begat fractional, percent, ppm, ppb, and ppt"? This might suggest that "Quantities" would have conversions too (e.g. all "concentrations" would have a reference representation from/to which all children could convert). Interesting...this also suggests that <Quantity/> is orthogonal to <Unit/>. While one cannot describe conversions between "ppm CO2" and "ppm O2" without a chemical reaction, one can easily describe the conversion between "ppm CO2" and "ppb CO2", because they are merely different expressions of the same molecule's concentration. All in all, though, good job! When is the final version scheduled for release? Please forgive my senseless ramblings. Bryce Nordgren Physical Scientist Rocky Mountain Research Station USDA Forest Service
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