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Subject: Re: [uoml-x] IDL?


I think these are questions, that engineers who implement UOML should 
answer.

In case we're adding IDLs, another question would be if they shall 
become normative or informative, e.g. in an Annex.

Peter

Am 17.04.2011 07:16, schrieb Alex Wang:
> Another issue we need discuss is IDL. IDL has higher efficient than than
> XML, do we need to add IDL as an alternate choice of instruction form?
> Or we insist on XML only to wait the enhancement upgrade of XML parser?
>
> -Alex
>
> 2011/4/16 Alex Wang <alexwang@sursen.com <mailto:alexwang@sursen.com>>
>
>     SVG is an important issue. When UOML is designed in 2005, SVG is too
>     complicated and not popular, doesn't meet the principle of UOML "as
>     simple as possible". But in 2011, SVG has become a part of HTML5,
>     almost all of browser support SVG, it seems that SVG will be more
>     popular than PDF in future.
>
>     I suggest that we can use SVG as an optional format for get page
>     bitmap, although SVG is not a bitmap format. Thus the user of UOML
>     can easily display/print the page by simply send it to browser.
>
>     Regarding using SVG to describe UOML graphics object, there are some
>     problems:
>     1. Compatibility requirement. If we change to SVG description in new
>     version, how to keep compatibility of old version standard?
>     2. SVG is a non-status page description language, while UOML adopts
>     graphics status to follow PDF. Although it is convertible, but the
>     graphics model of UOML will be changed significantly, the
>     compatibility will be much harder.
>
>     It is possible to have more problems, what is your opinion?
>
>     I'd like to use existing standard as possible, but we must resolve
>     above problems before we go.
>
>     -Alex
>
>     2011/4/15 Peter Junge <peter.junge@gmx.org <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org>>
>
>         Hi everyone,
>
>         please comment the document I have just uploaded. It's the first
>         working draft of UOML carrying version number 1.1.
>
>         I'm still not 100% sure which direction to go with regard to
>         UOML Graphics Objects/SVG.
>         Mapping the Graphics Objects to SVG would be expressing the same
>         thing in two different ways. From my point of view it might be a
>         smarter approach to rebuild the UOML Graphics Objects with a
>         subset of SVG. OpenDocument Format does it that way. ODF defines
>         an internal svg: namespace with reusing SVG elements and
>         attributes and trimming them down to the functionality they
>         need. Would it be possible to redefine the Graphics Objects in
>         an identical way with a UOML-internal subset of SVG?
>
>         Best regards,
>         Peter
>
>
>         Am 15.04.2011 21:02, schrieb peter.junge@gmx.org
>         <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org>:
>
>             This is the first working draft of UOML with version number 1.1
>
>             Most significant changes, considerables:
>             By Kaihong
>             ------------
>             - 3.4 GET: Significantly extended, more examples
>             - New Clause 4.3.1: DRAWPARA with many dependend small
>             changes (I added
>             quite a few comments)
>             - Annex A,C: New schemas
>
>             By Peter
>             --------
>             - 1.1 Terminology: Rephrased the definitions for docbase and
>             docset in a
>             way that I find clearer. (Comments welcome)
>             - New Clause 1.7: Added draft of simple use case. It can
>             certainly be
>             elaborated
>             - 2.2 Change the ambigous sentence about the root docset into a
>             definition.
>             - New Clause 2.3.1: Root Docset as special case of Docset
>             - 4.11.1,2: ARC and Bezier are IMHO redundant to SUBPATH
>             - 4.11.5 Image: Proposing change of schema and semantics
>             - 4.11.7,8: RECT and ROUNDRECT can IMHO be merged as in SVG
>
>
>               -- Mr. Peter Junge
>
>             The document named UOML (Unstructured Operation Markup
>             Language) Part 1 1.1
>             WD01 REV 01 (UOML-X-Part1v1.1-wd01-rev01.doc) has been
>             submitted by Mr.
>             Peter Junge to the OASIS Unstructured Operation Markup
>             Language eXtended
>             (UOML-X) TC document repository.
>
>             Document Description:
>             This is the first working draft of UOML with version number 1.1
>
>             View Document Details:
>             http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=41847
>
>             Download Document:
>             http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41847/UOML-X-Part1v1.1-wd01-rev01.doc
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