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Subject: Re: [uoml-x] IDL?


Great, as far as I can see, that's mostly what we would need. Can we 
find someone to translate the important parts into English? I would like 
to integrate it into the specification in the first week of May.

Peter

Am 19.04.2011 10:52, schrieb 刘宁胜:
> We already have a IDL part in UOML's chinese version,see attached document.
>
>
> 2011/4/19 Alex Wang <alexwang@sursen.com <mailto:alexwang@sursen.com>>
>
>     Before we decide  if they shall become normative or informative, we
>     need figure out the relationship of IDL functions and XML instructions.
>
>     I have asked OASIS whether a non-XML standard is acceptable for
>     OASIS, the answer is yes.
>
>     -Alex
>
>
>     2011/4/18 Peter Junge <peter.junge@gmx.org <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org>>
>
>         I think these are questions, that engineers who implement UOML
>         should answer.
>
>         In case we're adding IDLs, another question would be if they
>         shall become normative or informative, e.g. in an Annex.
>
>         Peter
>
>         Am 17.04.2011 07:16, schrieb Alex Wang:
>
>             Another issue we need discuss is IDL. IDL has higher
>             efficient than than
>             XML, do we need to add IDL as an alternate choice of
>             instruction form?
>             Or we insist on XML only to wait the enhancement upgrade of
>             XML parser?
>
>             -Alex
>
>             2011/4/16 Alex Wang <alexwang@sursen.com
>             <mailto:alexwang@sursen.com> <mailto:alexwang@sursen.com
>             <mailto:alexwang@sursen.com>>>
>
>
>                 SVG is an important issue. When UOML is designed in
>             2005, SVG is too
>                 complicated and not popular, doesn't meet the principle
>             of UOML "as
>                 simple as possible". But in 2011, SVG has become a part
>             of HTML5,
>                 almost all of browser support SVG, it seems that SVG
>             will be more
>                 popular than PDF in future.
>
>                 I suggest that we can use SVG as an optional format for
>             get page
>                 bitmap, although SVG is not a bitmap format. Thus the
>             user of UOML
>                 can easily display/print the page by simply send it to
>             browser.
>
>                 Regarding using SVG to describe UOML graphics object,
>             there are some
>                 problems:
>                 1. Compatibility requirement. If we change to SVG
>             description in new
>                 version, how to keep compatibility of old version standard?
>                 2. SVG is a non-status page description language, while
>             UOML adopts
>                 graphics status to follow PDF. Although it is
>             convertible, but the
>                 graphics model of UOML will be changed significantly, the
>                 compatibility will be much harder.
>
>                 It is possible to have more problems, what is your opinion?
>
>                 I'd like to use existing standard as possible, but we
>             must resolve
>                 above problems before we go.
>
>                 -Alex
>
>                 2011/4/15 Peter Junge <peter.junge@gmx.org
>             <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org> <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org
>             <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org>>>
>
>
>                     Hi everyone,
>
>                     please comment the document I have just uploaded.
>             It's the first
>                     working draft of UOML carrying version number 1.1.
>
>                     I'm still not 100% sure which direction to go with
>             regard to
>                     UOML Graphics Objects/SVG.
>                     Mapping the Graphics Objects to SVG would be
>             expressing the same
>                     thing in two different ways. From my point of view
>             it might be a
>                     smarter approach to rebuild the UOML Graphics
>             Objects with a
>                     subset of SVG. OpenDocument Format does it that way.
>             ODF defines
>                     an internal svg: namespace with reusing SVG elements and
>                     attributes and trimming them down to the
>             functionality they
>                     need. Would it be possible to redefine the Graphics
>             Objects in
>                     an identical way with a UOML-internal subset of SVG?
>
>                     Best regards,
>                     Peter
>
>
>                     Am 15.04.2011 21:02, schrieb peter.junge@gmx.org
>             <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org>
>             <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org <mailto:peter.junge@gmx.org>>:
>
>
>                         This is the first working draft of UOML with
>             version number 1.1
>
>                         Most significant changes, considerables:
>                         By Kaihong
>                         ------------
>                         - 3.4 GET: Significantly extended, more examples
>                         - New Clause 4.3.1: DRAWPARA with many dependend
>             small
>                         changes (I added
>                         quite a few comments)
>                         - Annex A,C: New schemas
>
>                         By Peter
>                         --------
>                         - 1.1 Terminology: Rephrased the definitions for
>             docbase and
>                         docset in a
>                         way that I find clearer. (Comments welcome)
>                         - New Clause 1.7: Added draft of simple use
>             case. It can
>                         certainly be
>                         elaborated
>                         - 2.2 Change the ambigous sentence about the
>             root docset into a
>                         definition.
>                         - New Clause 2.3.1: Root Docset as special case
>             of Docset
>                         - 4.11.1,2: ARC and Bezier are IMHO redundant to
>             SUBPATH
>                         - 4.11.5 Image: Proposing change of schema and
>             semantics
>                         - 4.11.7,8: RECT and ROUNDRECT can IMHO be
>             merged as in SVG
>
>
>                           -- Mr. Peter Junge
>
>                         The document named UOML (Unstructured Operation
>             Markup
>                         Language) Part 1 1.1
>                         WD01 REV 01 (UOML-X-Part1v1.1-wd01-rev01.doc)
>             has been
>                         submitted by Mr.
>                         Peter Junge to the OASIS Unstructured Operation
>             Markup
>                         Language eXtended
>                         (UOML-X) TC document repository.
>
>                         Document Description:
>                         This is the first working draft of UOML with
>             version number 1.1
>
>                         View Document Details:
>             http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=41847
>
>                         Download Document:
>             http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41847/UOML-X-Part1v1.1-wd01-rev01.doc
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