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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Introduce admin virtqueue as a new transport


On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 02:59:04PM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 02:32:31PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > 
> > å 2021/8/4 äå8:50, Stefan Hajnoczi åé:
> > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 04:51:15PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > å 2021/8/4 äå4:09, Stefan Hajnoczi åé:
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 11:20:06AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > I tried to imagine what the virtio-blk vdev creation parameters need to
> > > > > look like. Here is what I came up with:
> > > > > 
> > > > >     Virtual Device Creation Parameters for Block Devices
> > > > >     ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > >     The following creation parameters specify the details of a new virtual
> > > > >     block device:
> > > > > 
> > > > >     Field        Type   Meaning
> > > > >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >     blkdev_id    u64    Identifier of the underlying block device that
> > > > >                         provides storage. The enumeration and creation of
> > > > >                         underlying block devices is
> > > > >                         implementation-specific.
> > > > >     num_queues   u16    Number of request virtqueues.
> > > > >     features_len u8     Number of elements in features[].
> > > > 
> > > > For 'elements' do you mean the 'u32 elements'?
> > > Yes, u32 array elements.
> > > 
> > > > >     features[]   u32    Device feature bits to report.
> > > > > 
> > > > >     Creation error codes are as follows:
> > > > > 
> > > > >     Error               Meaning
> > > > >     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >     INVALID_BLKDEV_ID   The underlying block device does not exist.
> > > > >     BLKDEV_BUSY         The underlying block device is already in use.
> > > > >     BLKDEV_READ_ONLY    The underlying block device is read-only.
> > > > >     INVALID_NUM_QUEUES  The number of request queues was 0 or too large.
> > > > >     UNSUPPORTED_FEATURE A feature bit was given that the device does not
> > > > >                         support.
> > > > > 
> > > > >     If the VIRTIO_BLK_F_RO bit is set in features[] then the underlying
> > > > >     block device is made available for read-only access.
> > > > > 
> > > > >     Creation MAY fail with BLKDEV_BUSY if a blkdev_id value that is
> > > > >     already in use is given.
> > > > > 
> > > > >     Creation MAY fail with BLKDEV_READ_ONLY if the underlying block device
> > > > >     does not support writes and the VIRTIO_BLK_F_RO bit is not set in
> > > > >     features[].
> > > > > 
> > > > >     The configuration space parameters (see 5.2.4 Device configuration
> > > > >     layout) are determined by the device based on the underlying block
> > > > >     device capacity, block size, etc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Note that this doesn't allow overriding configuration space parameters
> > > > > (e.g. block size). We probably need to support that in the future for
> > > > > live migration compatibility.
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder do we need those configuration to be self-descriptive? E.g how did
> > > > the device know that the config contains the blk_size. (I guess it's not a
> > > > good practice to infer this from the config len).
> > > The device configuration space size and layout is determined by the
> > > device feature bits.
> > 
> > 
> > So blk_size doesn't belong to any feature. I guess it means we should start
> > the support of blk_size from day 0.
> 
> The device creation parameters can either include a full configuration
> space-sized blob:
> 
>   Field        Type                      Meaning
>   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   init_config  struct virtio_blk_config  Initial contents of the
>                                          configuration space.
> 
> or they can include individual fields (basically
> re-define them outside struct virtio_foo_config):
> 
>   Field        Type        Meaning
>   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   blk_size     u32         Block size.
> 
> Which approach to use depends on how much of the configuration space
> should be settable at device creation time. If most of it will be
> initialized by the device and isn't configurable, then embedding the
> entire struct is not necessary.
> Additionally, there must be a flags field in the device creation
> parameters for indicating which configuration space fields or individual
> fields described above to use. This allows you to accept the default
> blk_size value instead of providing your own value:
> 
>   Field       Type         Meaning
>   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   init_flags  u64          Use the corresponding field value to
>                            initialize the device configuration space if
> 			   the flag is set:
> 
> 			     INIT_BLK_SIZE (1 << 0)
> 
> > I had some discussion with Parav about this in the series that introduces
> > the netlink extension for setting up the device.
> > 
> > I guess this is what we want:
> > 
> > struct virtio_config {
> > attribute_X; //only exist when feature X existing
> > attribute_Y; //only exist when feature Y existing
> > ...
> > };
> 
> That's more or less how configuration space layout works today. We don't
> have explicit comments in the header file but when feature X is enabled
> the driver may access virtio_config::attribute_X.
> 
> Stefan


Two things I know about network devices
- some VF configuration isn't in config space at all
  since config space describes guest visible fields.
  E.g. a vlan tag to be attached to all packets.

- some VF configuration is normally settable by PF without
  destroying/recreating the VF.
  E.g. the default MAC address.

Does blk have such configuration?





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