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Subject: Re: [virtio] [PATCH RFC v7 6/8] ccw: disallow ADMIN_VQ



On 8/16/2022 6:50 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 11:48:51AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 04:48:11PM +0200, Halil Pasic wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:19:20 -0400
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
---
  content.tex | 10 ++++++++++
  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
index 76b5a28..53be680 100644
--- a/content.tex
+++ b/content.tex
@@ -2668,6 +2668,16 @@ \subsubsection{Handling Device Features}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Vi
  uses the CCW_CMD_WRITE_FEAT command, denoting a \field{features}/\field{index}
  combination.
+\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Handling Device Features}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Device Features}
+
+Device MUST NOT set bit VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ (bit 41) in
+DeviceFeatures.
+
+\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Handling Device Features}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Device Features}
+
+Driver MUST NOT set bit VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ (bit 41) in
+DriverFeatures even if offered by the device.
+
I'm not sure I understand the intention here. I believe what we try to
accomplish here is the following. The Channel I/O transport *currently*
does not support the VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ feature. It is not like we want
to state that the feature VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ won't ever be supported by
the Channel I/O transport. Or am I wrong?

If my assumptions are right, then the old incarnation of the spec could
contradict the new incarnation of the spec. Thus I would prefer something
like.
Relaxing requirenents is always okay.

"""
Currently the following features are not supported by the Channel I/O
transport:
* VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ
"""
what I want to prevent is driver saying "oh device will not set ADMIN_VQ
so it's ok to acknowledge it if offered, it is never offered even
though it does not suport it".
because then it becomes impossible to know when actually a new driver
appears with actual support.

So, Maybe just add text

Note: future versions of this specification will allow setting ADMIN_VQ
for driver and device. Device MUST NOT assume driver does not
acknowledge ADMIN_VQ if offered.

And similarly for drivers:

Note: future versions of this specification will allow setting ADMIN_VQ
for driver and device. Drivers MUST NOT assume ADMIN_VQ if not offered.

If we want, we can also state what needs to be done in general when
features are unsupported by the transport. And yes, that normative
material in my opinion.

Regards,
Halil

Are there other examples? I want to call out the list explicitly because
it is so easy to enable an extra feature by mistake.

And also, I don't *want* to make it easy to add features only to some
transports. Possible, ok, but not easy.

Don't we have some wording about if a device doesn't offer feature bit X, the driver MUST NOT accept feature bit X ?

And solve it once and for all...

  \subsubsection{Device Configuration}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Device Configuration}
The device's configuration space is located in host memory.


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