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Subject: RE: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v10] virtio-net: Clarify VLAN filter table configuration


> From: Parav Pandit
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 6:31 PM
> To: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>; Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
> 
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:56 PM
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 07:04:54PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
> > > > +
> > > > +When VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VLAN is negotiated, the device MUST accept
> > > > +all VLAN tagged packets whose VLAN tag is present in the VLAN
> > > > +filter table and SHOULD drop all VLAN tagged packets whose VLAN
> > > > +tag is absent in the VLAN filter table.
> > >
> > > We could also add "as per device configuration" here as well...
> > >
> > > >From the other thread
> > >
> > > On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 12:41:16 +0000
> > > Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > BTW why SHOULD drop?
> > > > This is the offload feature to drop such packets so that OS driver
> > > > doesn't need to do the filtering work. :)
> > >
> > > Why not MUST drop? If the device is allowed to produce false
> > > negatives, then I think the OS probably wants to check again to
> > > filter out
> > those.
> > > Can we change SHOULD to MUST, so the conforming device is guaranteed
> > > to do the filtering, and the OS can rely on it?
> >
> > Well the spec says:
> > 	Similar to the MAC address based filtering, the VLAN filtering
> > 	is also best-effort: unwanted packets could still arrive.
> >
> >  am not sure why - IIRC MAC filtering is best effort because a. we
> > don't expose table size to guests so the table can always overflow.
> > b. we like to rely on bridge to filter for performance and *that* is
> >    best effort.
> >
> > but vlans are different aren't they? Anyway changing that will need a
> > new feature bit.
> I do not the history for about "Note" on why it was made best effort.
> To best of my knowledge, it should not be best effort.
> Device should not overflow the table. It should fail the ADD call.
> 
> If the above claim of "Note" is not strong enough, we can probably run a
> different issue to make it "MUST".
> I am not sure we really need feature bit it we fix the note.

I clicked too early while typing.
Since DEL operation doesn't synchronize with the data path of device and driver, at some point a packet in pipe can be still received with removed VLAN.
So may be the note was added.
But for sure ADD should not be best effort basis.


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