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Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2


On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:48:53 +0100
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 08/02/2017 20:59, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > We couldn't decide what's better for everyone in 1.0 days and I doubt
> > we'll be able to now, but yes, benchmarking is needed to make
> > sire it's required. Very easy to remove or not to use/support in
> > drivers/devices though.
> 
> Fair enough, but of course then we must specify that devices MUST
> support either VRING_DESC_F_NEXT or VRING_DESC_F_INDIRECT, and drivers
> SHOULD support both (or use neither).
> 
> The drivers' part adds to the implementation burden, which is why I
> wanted to remove it.  Alternatively we can say that indirect is
> mandatory for both devices and drivers (and save a feature bit), while
> VRING_DESC_F_NEXT is optional.

I think this (INDIRECT mandatory, NEXT optional) makes sense. But we
really need some benchmarking.

> 
> >>> * Non power-of-2 ring sizes
> >>>
> >>> As the ring simply wraps around, there's no reason to
> >>> require ring size to be power of two.
> >>> It can be made a separate feature though.
> >>
> >> Power of 2 ring sizes are required in order to ignore the high bits of
> >> the indices.  With non-power-of-2 sizes you are forced to keep the
> >> indices less than the ring size.
> > 
> > Right. So
> > 
> > 	if (unlikely(idx++ > size))
> > 		idx = 0;
> > 
> > OTOH ring size that's twice larger than necessary
> > because of power of two requirements wastes cache.
> 
> I don't know.  Power of 2 ring size is pretty standard, I'd rather avoid
> the complication and the gratuitous difference with 1.0.

I agree. I don't think dropping the power of 2 requirement buys us so
much that it makes up for the added complexity.



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