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Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2


On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:43:05 +0200
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 05:11:05PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > >>> * Non power-of-2 ring sizes
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As the ring simply wraps around, there's no reason to
> > > >>> require ring size to be power of two.
> > > >>> It can be made a separate feature though.
> > > >>
> > > >> Power of 2 ring sizes are required in order to ignore the high bits of
> > > >> the indices.  With non-power-of-2 sizes you are forced to keep the
> > > >> indices less than the ring size.
> > > > 
> > > > Right. So
> > > > 
> > > > 	if (unlikely(idx++ > size))
> > > > 		idx = 0;
> > > > 
> > > > OTOH ring size that's twice larger than necessary
> > > > because of power of two requirements wastes cache.
> > > 
> > > I don't know.  Power of 2 ring size is pretty standard, I'd rather avoid
> > > the complication and the gratuitous difference with 1.0.
> > 
> > I agree. I don't think dropping the power of 2 requirement buys us so
> > much that it makes up for the added complexity.
> 
> I recalled why I came up with this. The issue is cache associativity.
> Recall that besides the ring we have event suppression
> structures - if we are lucky and things run at the same speed
> everything can work by polling keeping events disabled, then
> event suppression structures are never written to, they are read-only.
> 
> However if ring and event suppression share a cache line ring accesses
> have a chance to push the event suppression out of cache, causing
> misses on read.
> 
> This can happen if they are at the same offset in the set.
> E.g. with L1 cache 4Kbyte sets are common, so same offset
> within a 4K page.
> 
> We can fix this by making event suppression adjacent in memory, e.g.:
> 
> 
> [interrupt suppress]
> [descriptor ring]
> [kick suppress]
> 
> If this whole structure fits in a single set, ring accesses will
> not push kick or interrupt suppress out of cache.
> Specific layout can be left for drivers, but as set size is
> a power of two this might require a non-power of two ring size.
> 
> I conclude that this is an optimization that needs to be
> benchmarked.

This makes sense. But wouldn't the optimum layout not depend on the
platform?

> 
> I also note that the generic description does not have to force
> powers of two *even if devices actually require it*.
> I would be inclined to word the text in a way that makes
> relaxing the restriction easier.
> 
> For example, we can say "free running 16 bit index" and this forces a
> power of two, but we can also say "free running index wrapping to 0
> after (N*queue-size - 1) with N chosen such that the value fits in 16
> bit" and this is exactly the same if queue size is a power of 2.
> 
> So we can add text saying "ring size MUST be a power of two"
> and later it will be easy to relax just by adding a feature bit.

A later feature bit sounds good.



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