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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device


On 2/18/2018 10:11 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 09:12:01 -0800, Alexander Duyck wrote:
We noticed a couple of issues with this approach during testing.
- As both 'bypass' and 'backup' netdevs are associated with the same
   virtio pci device, udev tries to rename both of them with the same name
   and the 2nd rename will fail. This would be OK as long as the first netdev
   to be renamed is the 'bypass' netdev, but the order in which udev gets
   to rename the 2 netdevs is not reliable.
Out of curiosity - why do you link the master netdev to the virtio
struct device?
The basic idea of all this is that we wanted this to work with an
existing VM image that was using virtio. As such we were trying to
make it so that the bypass interface takes the place of the original
virtio and get udev to rename the bypass to what the original
virtio_net was.
That makes sense.  Is it udev/naming that you're most concerned about
here?  I.e. what's the user space app that expects the netdev to be
linked?  This is just out of curiosity, the linking of netdevs to
devices is a bit of a PITA in the switchdev eswitch mode world, with
libvirt expecting only certain devices to be there..  Right now we're
not linking VF reprs, which breaks naming.  I wanted to revisit that.

For live migration usecase, userspace is only aware of one virtio_net interface and it doesn't expect it to be linked with any lower dev.  So it should be fine even if the lower netdev is not present. Only the master netdev should be assigned the same name so that userspace configuration scripts  in the VM don't need to change.


FWIW two solutions that immediately come to mind is to export "backup"
as phys_port_name of the backup virtio link and/or assign a name to the
master like you are doing already.  I think team uses team%d and bond
uses bond%d, soft naming of master devices seems quite natural in this
case.
I figured I had overlooked something like that.. Thanks for pointing
this out. Okay so I think the phys_port_name approach might resolve
the original issue. If I am reading things correctly what we end up
with is the master showing up as "ens1" for example and the backup
showing up as "ens1nbackup". Am I understanding that right?
Yes, provided systemd is new enough.

Yes. I did a quick test to confirm that adding ndo_phys_port_name() to virtio_net ndo_ops fixes the udev naming issue with 2 virtio netdevs.  This is on fedora27.



The problem with the team/bond%d approach is that it creates a new
netdevice and so it would require guest configuration changes.

IMHO phys_port_name == "backup" if BACKUP bit is set on slave virtio
link is quite neat.
I agree. For non-"backup" virio_net devices would it be okay for us to
just return -EOPNOTSUPP? I assume it would be and that way the legacy
behavior could be maintained although the function still exists.
That's my understanding too.



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