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Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH] virtio-net: support timestamp received packet


On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 3:24 PM Shuyi Cheng
<chengshuyi@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> å 10/19/22 1:55 PM, Jason Wang åé:
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:32 AM Shuyi Cheng
> > <chengshuyi@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This patch introduces VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP to enhance the
> >> observability of network packet delay between virtio device and virtio
> >> driver.
> >>
> >> We have encountered many network jitter problems from virtio device to
> >> virtio driver in the production environment. Due to the lack of relevant
> >> indicators in this path, we often spend a lot of energy to locate such
> >> problems. If the virtio device can provide the packet receiving
> >> timestamp, then we can easily calculate the network jitter index between
> >> the virtio device and the virtio driver. When such a problem is
> >> encountered again, it is easy to determine the problem boundary.
> >>
> >> Thanks and looking forward to your response!
> >
> > While at it, do we need a tx timestamp as well?
> >
>
> We have not encountered network jitter in packets from driver to device.
> For now, rx timestamp is more valuable.

Well, it doesn't mean it can't happen in other places, I'd suggest
adding it for symmetry.

>
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Shuyi Cheng <chengshuyi@linux.alibaba.com>
> >> ---
> >>    content.tex | 14 ++++++++++++++
> >>    1 file changed, 14 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> >> index e863709..472acf3 100644
> >> --- a/content.tex
> >> +++ b/content.tex
> >> @@ -3097,6 +3097,8 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types /
> >> Network Device / Feature bits
> >>    \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT(57)] Device can report per-packet hash
> >>        value and a type of calculated hash.
> >>
> >> +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP(58)] Device can timestamp received packet.
> >> +
> >>    \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN(59)] Driver can provide the exact
> >> \field{hdr_len}
> >>        value. Device benefits from knowing the exact header length.
> >>
> >> @@ -3371,6 +3373,7 @@ \subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Device
> >> Types / Network Device / Device O
> >>    #define VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_NEEDS_CSUM    1
> >>    #define VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_DATA_VALID    2
> >>    #define VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_RSC_INFO      4
> >> +#define VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_TSTAMP        8
> >>            u8 flags;
> >>    #define VIRTIO_NET_HDR_GSO_NONE        0
> >>    #define VIRTIO_NET_HDR_GSO_TCPV4       1
> >> @@ -3387,6 +3390,7 @@ \subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Device
> >> Types / Network Device / Device O
> >>            le32 hash_value;        (Only if VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT
> >> negotiated)
> >>            le16 hash_report;       (Only if VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT
> >> negotiated)
> >>            le16 padding_reserved;  (Only if VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT
> >> negotiated)
> >> +        le64 tstamp;            (Only if VIRITO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP negotiated)
> >>    };
> >>    \end{lstlisting}
> >>
> >> @@ -3809,6 +3813,13 @@ \subsubsection{Processing of Incoming
> >> Packets}\label{sec:Device Types / Network
> >>    checksum (in case of multiple encapsulated protocols, one level
> >>    of checksums is validated).
> >>
> >> +If VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP was not negotiated, the device MUST not set
> >> +VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_TSTAMP bit in \field{flags}.
> >> +
> >> +If VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP was negotiated, the device MUST also
> >> +set VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_TSTAMP bit in \field{flags},
> >> +set \field{tstamp} to time to receive the packet.
> >
> > What kind of time should we use? Willem tried to propose something
> > like this via TAI:
> >
> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2021-February/052476.html
> >
> > Thanks
>
> We calculate the jitter by the time difference between the two adjacent
> packets, that is
>         jitter = DriverTime(P2) - DriverTime(P1) -
>                 (DeviceTime(P2) - DeviceTime(P1))
>

How can you guarantee this works after migration? E.g P2 is received
after migration.

And what's more important, let's try to make the feature general by
not limiting the use case for jitter calculation only.

Thanks

> P1,P2 means packet
> DriverTime(Px) means the time from the Px packet to the virtio driver,
> DeviceTime (Px) means the time from the Px packet to the virtio device,
> which is the tstamp field in virtio_net_hdr
>
> Therefore, We may not specify the clock type. If the virtio device is
> hardware, it may be the hardware's own clock. If the virtio device is
> qemu, it may be CLOCK_MONOTONIC, TAI or other types.
>
>
> >
> >> +
> >>    \drivernormative{\paragraph}{Processing of Incoming
> >>    Packets}{Device Types / Network Device / Device Operation /
> >>    Processing of Incoming Packets}
> >> @@ -3831,6 +3842,9 @@ \subsubsection{Processing of Incoming
> >> Packets}\label{sec:Device Types / Network
> >>    VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_DATA_VALID is set, the driver MUST NOT
> >>    rely on the packet checksum being correct.
> >>
> >> +If VIRTIO_NET_HDR_F_TSTAMP bit in \field{flags} is not set, the
> >> +driver MUST NOT use the \field{tstamp}.
> >> +
> >>    \paragraph{Hash calculation for incoming packets}
> >>    \label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Device Operation /
> >> Processing of Incoming Packets / Hash calculation for incoming packets}
> >>
> >> --
> >> 2.27.0
> >>
> >>
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