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Subject: Re: [virtio] virtio tc group status changes


Yes, I will do that and let everyone know. 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

got it.
can you pls revert changes I made?

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:18:13AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
> What is key here is that the individual participants in the TC indicate their
> commitment by choosing to be Members or Observers. If a Member wishes remain a
> Member, active or not, is his or her choice. If people don't want to be
> considered Voting Members, they can change their status or ask you to change
> their status to Permanent Non-Voting Member. 
>
> However, the Member/Observer distinction itself is so fundamental to the OASIS
> IPR policy and the IPR mode of the TC that it *must* be made by the
> participants themselves. To have the Chair - or OASIS staff for that matter -
> change the roles on the roster could create significant confusion about what
> each person's obligations are with respect to the final approved OASIS
> Standard. 
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>     On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 09:21:54AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
>     > Hi Michael, 
>     >
>     > Whoops. That is a type of change that you should not make. Observer and
>     Member
>     > are formal terms in the OASIS Process and the choice between them is to
>     be made
>     > by the participant, not the Chair. That role bears directly both on what
>     the
>     > person is able to do (e.g. an Observer will receive all the email to the
>     TC's
>     > mailing list but will not be able to send any email) and on their IPR
>     > obligations (Observers carry none, Members are bound by the TC's IPR
>     mode). 
>     >
>     > The correct change is to switch any Member's status from Voting to
>     Non-Voting.
>     > Which I think is your intent. 
>
>     These were non-voting anyway.
>
>     > Note also that when TCs do not hold meetings for more than 60 days, any
>     Members
>     > gain Voting status. 
>
>     That's why I thought I should make the change.
>     Should this really apply to people that never attended any meetings?
>
>     >
>     > Let me know if you have any questions. 
>     >
>     > Best, 
>     >
>     > /chet 
>     >
>     > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi all,
>     >
>     >     To keep the group roster up to date, I have changed the status of
>     virtio
>     >     TC members that did not attend any past TC meetings (when we still
>     had
>     >     them) to that of observer.
>     >
>     >     I have also sent messages to a couple of members that didn't attend
>     >     meetings since June: they have an option to become voting members or
>     >     observers.
>     >
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