Re: [virtio] virtio tc group status changes

[Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>]

Michael & members of the VIRTIO TC, 

I have returned the Roster to its state as of Sunday, December 28th. Everyone who was a Member at that time is now so marked. Everyone who was an Observer at that time remains an Observer. 

Any of you who wish to change your status from Member to Observer should go to the TC webpage at https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/virtio/ and click "remove me" under Roster in the top panel of the page. Then refresh the page and click "join group" to rejoin and re-set your membership status. Note that as an Observer, you will receive mails from the TC mailing list and you can attend meetings. However, you are not able to send anything to the mailing list nor participate actively in meetings. 

If you prefer to be able to participate but do not wish to retain voting rights, you can simply ask Michael or me to reset your role to Persistent Non-Voting Member. 

Please let me know if you have any questions, 

/chet

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

got it.
can you pls revert changes I made?

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:18:13AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
> What is key here is that the individual participants in the TC indicate their
> commitment by choosing to be Members or Observers. If a Member wishes remain a
> Member, active or not, is his or her choice. If people don't want to be
> considered Voting Members, they can change their status or ask you to change
> their status to Permanent Non-Voting Member. 
>
> However, the Member/Observer distinction itself is so fundamental to the OASIS
> IPR policy and the IPR mode of the TC that it *must* be made by the
> participants themselves. To have the Chair - or OASIS staff for that matter -
> change the roles on the roster could create significant confusion about what
> each person's obligations are with respect to the final approved OASIS
> Standard. 
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>     On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 09:21:54AM -0500, Chet Ensign wrote:
>     > Hi Michael, 
>     >
>     > Whoops. That is a type of change that you should not make. Observer and
>     Member
>     > are formal terms in the OASIS Process and the choice between them is to
>     be made
>     > by the participant, not the Chair. That role bears directly both on what
>     the
>     > person is able to do (e.g. an Observer will receive all the email to the
>     TC's
>     > mailing list but will not be able to send any email) and on their IPR
>     > obligations (Observers carry none, Members are bound by the TC's IPR
>     mode). 
>     >
>     > The correct change is to switch any Member's status from Voting to
>     Non-Voting.
>     > Which I think is your intent. 
>
>     These were non-voting anyway.
>
>     > Note also that when TCs do not hold meetings for more than 60 days, any
>     Members
>     > gain Voting status. 
>
>     That's why I thought I should make the change.
>     Should this really apply to people that never attended any meetings?
>
>     >
>     > Let me know if you have any questions. 
>     >
>     > Best, 
>     >
>     > /chet 
>     >
>     > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi all,
>     >
>     >     To keep the group roster up to date, I have changed the status of
>     virtio
>     >     TC members that did not attend any past TC meetings (when we still
>     had
>     >     them) to that of observer.
>     >
>     >     I have also sent messages to a couple of members that didn't attend
>     >     meetings since June: they have an option to become voting members or
>     >     observers.
>     >
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