Re: groups.io mailing list

Michael, more details below...

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

Do you mean this one:

Each TC shall be provided with a public comment facility, the purpose of
which is to receive comments from the public and is not for general
discussion. Comments shall be publicly archived and must be considered
by the TC.. TCs are not required to respond to comments. Comments to the
TC made by non-TC Members, including from the public, must be made via
the TC's comment facility, and shall not be accepted via any other
means.

No. The specific rules I'm referring to are:

ttps://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-committee-operations-process-2017-11-03#visibility-mailingLists: "Each committee shall be provided upon formation with ... a means to collect public comments. ... The purpose of the committee's public comment facility is to receive comments from the public."

and

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process-2017-05-26#publicReview: "Comments from non-TC Members must be collected via the TC's archived public comment facility; comments made through any other means shall not be accepted."

OASIS designates and provides the comment facility; it is not a choice of a TC. Please keep in mind that we have to regulate, oversee, and protect the interests of 60+ technical communities. We cannot allow individual TCs to start inventing their own new ways of doing things without making it difficult or impossible for us to vouch for their work. The standing of OASIS output - the IPR commitments and protections, the acceptance of OASIS standards by the broader community, ANSI accreditation, ISO PAS submitter status, and more - is based on review and approval of our rules and our commitment to uphold them. We have to change how we support those rules with care and apply any mechanisms we approve across the board. Especially anywhere IPR questions are involved.

as well as the virtio-comment web form

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=virtio ?

Unfortunately typos isn't the big issue. The issue is ability to CC a
virtio list on technical discussions that take place on other forums,
such as hypervisor or emulator lists.

'CC a list on technical discussions on other forums' - well, technical proposals are precisely the kind of input that we have to make sure is covered. Having the TC use someone's input on another list without explicitly ensuring that they are aware they are making a covered contribution to the VIRTIO TC leaves the TC in a vulnerable position.

An ideal contribution flow would be for contributor to send mail to list
and to get back a link to agree to IPR rules, contributor clicks it,
contribution gets forwarded.

Ok, I see that it is more attractive than having to subscribe first. This is something we can look into.

The flexible moderation is mostly what I was looking at, but a working
search is also a big plus: right now finding a message in an archive is
a manual process. Archiving of attachments is also nice since some
people edit the PDF and send comments this way.

Yes, I agree that search is a problem with our current configuration. I expect that our upgrades coming later this year will address that problem.

Let me discuss with Scott and Jamie and see if we can do anything in our current set up.

/chet

> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> After much consideration, I'm seriously thinking about creating
> an groups.io mailing list for the virtio TC feedback.
>
> The main issue I'm trying to address is the subscriber-only nature of
> the list which is a big problem for casual commenters: when one sends
> email to the list, message is bounced back. One has to subscribe
> and resend.
>
> groups.io seems to handle this in a more reasonable way.
>
> But API access with things like tags allowing better automation
> with e.g. the voting process would also be welcome.
>
> --
> MST
>
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> --
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> /chet
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/chet
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Looking forward to Borderless Cyber 2018, 3-5 Oct, Washington, D.C.

Organized by The World Bank, OASIS, and Georgetown University

Chet Ensign
Chief Technical Community Steward
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
http://www.oasis-open.org

Primary: +1 973-996-2298
Mobile: +1 201-341-1393

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