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Subject: Re: [virtio] Re: [PATCH v10 04/10] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues



å 2023/3/6 08:03, Stefan Hajnoczi åé:
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 04:38:59AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 03:21:33PM -0500, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
What happens if a command takes 1 second to complete, is the device
allowed to process the next command from the virtqueue during this time,
possibly completing it before the first command?

This requires additional clarification in the spec because "they are
processed by the device in the order in which they are queued" does not
explain whether commands block the virtqueue (in order completion) or
not (out of order completion).
Oh I begin to see. Hmm how does e.g. virtio scsi handle this?
virtio-scsi, virtio-blk, and NVMe requests may complete out of order.
Several may be processed by the device at the same time.

They rely on multi-queue for abort operations:

In virtio-scsi the abort requests (VIRTIO_SCSI_T_TMF_ABORT_TASK) are
sent on the control virtqueue. The the request identifier namespace is
shared across all virtqueues so it's possible to abort a request that
was submitted to any command virtqueue.

NVMe also follows the same design where abort commands are sent on the
Admin Submission Queue instead of an I/O Submission Queue. It's possible
to identify NVMe requests by <Submission Queue ID, Command Identifier>.

virtio-blk doesn't support aborting requests.

I think the logic behind this design is that if a queue gets stuck
processing long-running requests, then the device should not be forced
to perform lookahead in the queue to find abort commands. A separate
control/admin queue is used for the abort requests.


Or device need mandate some kind of QOS here, e.g a request must be complete in some time. Otherwise we don't have sufficient reliability for using it as management task?

Thanks



Stefan



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