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Subject: RE: [ws-caf-editors] next rev model


Yes, I don't think we have to justify it.  We discussed it at the Paris F2F and my understanding of the consensus there is that pass-by-value is a helpful option.  Choreology was the only objecting voice.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Little [mailto:mark.little@arjuna.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 3:32 AM
To: Greg Pavlik; ws-caf-editors
Subject: Re: [ws-caf-editors] next rev model


OK. I find it strange to have to justify the pass-by-value aspect of
context, since it's the most fundamental version. We added pass-by-reference
afterwards because it looked useful as well.

Mark.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Pavlik" <greg.pavlik@oracle.com>
To: "ws-caf-editors" <ws-caf-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 3:09 AM
Subject: [ws-caf-editors] next rev model


> Gentlemen -- another draft that attempts to answer Peter's questions as
> well as reflect what I think was the consensus outcome of the
> discussions we had.  It's clear that some folks are going to challenge
> us sharply on the utility of "pass by value" (what I consider to be the
> normal model for simple transaction protocols) as well as the need for
> exposing nesting relationships in the context structure; actually
> Peter's latest email suggests that the whole idea of context should be
> discarded altogether in favor of SOAP headers. So....
>
> Here's a short list of TODOs. Please feel free to create a better list
> or, should we stick with this, swap TODOs. Can we
>
> 1) make sure that this is an accurate synopsis of our shared
> understanding? (Mark/Eric)
> 2) buttress it with some examples (Eric)
> 3) take a stab at building up the defenses from the likely objections
> (why nesting structures are useful to expose in the context; what
> contexts have in common  at the most basic level that needn't be
> reinvented continuously in every protocol that uses SOAP headers, why
> pass by value is useful, etc.) (Mark)
>
> It would be great if we could have feedback from everyone by tomorrow
> afternoon.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>



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