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Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: [ws-caf] Statement for WS-Transactions workshop


My apologies to you and everyone else on the list.  I should have thought to send an email right after the meeting.

There was no formal reaction to our statement.  The workshop was set up as a feedback workshop, and the WS-CAF statement was taken in that context.  We (Mark Little and I) also proposed a "straw horse" proposal for merging WS-CAF with WS-AT, WS-BA, and WS-C.  I understand it's being evaluated.

Overall the meeting consisted primarily of presentations on the BEA/IBM/MSFT specifications with some discussion about them that resulted in about a dozen issues being raised.  

I think it was a good opportunity to let everyone know what's going on in WS-CAF, make the point about common ancestry and technical similarities, and highlight where WS-CAF provides extensions to the BEA/IBM/MSFT specs, especially around generic context management and the business process transaction model.

We will have to wait for a more formal reaction.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Wenzel [mailto:pete@seebeyond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:10 PM
To: Newcomer, Eric
Cc: ws-caf@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [ws-caf] Statement for WS-Transactions workshop

Eric, are you able to report anything about the workshop, or was it
held under nondisclosure?  Any response to your proposal?  Thanks.

Pete Wenzel <pete@seebeyond.com>
Senior Architect, SeeBeyond
Standards & Product Strategy
+1-626-471-6311 (US-Pacific)

Thus spoke James Bryce Clark (jamie.clark@oasis-open.org) on Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:36:30PM -0800:
> >> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
> >>
> >> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:24:08 -0800 (PST)
> >> From: Eric Newcomer
> >> Subject: RE: [ws-caf] Statement for WS-Transactions
> >> workshop
> >> To: ws-caf@lists.oasis-open.org
> >>
> >> Apologies - I typed this in much earlier today, but
> >> our email system has been out since noon, and is
> >> apparently still down.  So I'm posting from my
> >> private account.  Eric
> >> ------
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Per today's concall, here is the edited version of the
> >> statement I plan to give on behalf of the WS-CAF TC at
> >> the Microsoft/IBM/BEA WS-Transactions feedback
> >> workshop Wednesday March 10.  Please let me know if
> >> there are any further comments or suggestions.
> >>
> >> The WS-CAF TC would like to recognize the common
> >> ancestry and technical similarities across the WS-T,
> >> WS-C, WS-BA and WS-CAF sets of specifications.  During
> >> our work we've discovered the benefits of separating
> >> out context management as a generic mechanism, and
> >> have developed a key additional protocol called the
> >> Business Process transaction model.  We think the
> >> WS-T, WS-C, and WS-BA specifications would benefit
> >> from including these major concepts.
> >>
> >> We propose a discussion on finding the best way to
> >> move forward and bring our work together.
> >>
> >> Thanks -
> >>
> >> Eric

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