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Subject: Minutes from Monday Call (2004/3/29)


Please find the minutes of our Monday call below.
-- 
Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz | Allen | Hamilton
WS-CAF Phone Conference  March 29, 2004

1. Agenda review

2. roll call/ member changes
   
3. assign Scribe

  * Joseph Chiusano selected to scribe.

4. Actions

Action: Eric to update FAQ based on f2f comments

  * In process.

ACTION: editors to draft a model diagram from which the normative specification is derived. 

  * Done.

  * We also discussed 2 previous actions:
       - Automatic update of Bugzilla: In process (Mark Little)
       - Is Bugzilla account creation restricted to WS-CAF members: Closed (Mark Little sent e-mail with instructions)

5. Minutes

  ratify minutes of March 15 

  * Correction: This was actually March 8th (there was no meeting on March 15th)
  * Minutes were approved.

6. Review and approve model diagram and text

  * Discussion centered around the recently released WS-Context UML diagram and the subsequent discussion around context-by-value

  * Greg P. summarized:
       - TC discussed model and diagram on 3/21 call
       - A series of questions were raised about the material that was published to the list – questions went out to list, with multiple responses
       - One response from Peter F. related to the continuation of the discussion of  context-by-value vs. context-by-reference, as well as a general question about 
          what it means to have multiple ALSs associated with a particular protocol and how those ALSs manage dependencies among themselves
       - There was not much followup discussion on our list – currently pursuing this issue in Editor’s group to massage the model description to account for this issue
       - Editor's group hopes to have something out to TC later this week to clarify questions and push discussion along

  * Alastair entered, and inquired about the discussion of the parent/child relationship issue – was there any discussion of this on the call yet? 
       - No discussion yet - but discussed now
       - It was not clear from the WS-Context model text what the intent was in terms of parent/child relationship and context – what is point of having a context 
         wrapper in first place?
       - Editor's group has had a lot of discussion on this [see note above about “push discussion along”]

  * We are coming close to convergence on this issue

  * Eric thanked to everyone for their inputs and comments so far

7. Review and discuss document schedule

  * Eric described how at the Jan F2F, we wanted to have committee draft by end of April 
       - This is one month from now
       - This includes spec review and closing outstanding issues at the next F2F (April 28th and 29th); could possibly have draft out a few days later

  * We should have a draft published officially in advance of a meeting, to give folks time to review; Eric recommended this being done by April 21st, one week 
     in advance of the F2F
       - We should also have a call before draft is published to discuss any outstanding issues

  * Doug expressed that we should focus on a draft version as input for a meeting; that is, to make it as good as possible for the meeting, whether or not it will 
     become a committee draft 
       - Others liked this suggestion
       - We would then have a separate discussion on the committee draft-“worthiness” 
      - We could discuss the draft on the next call (April 12th) 

8. Review plan for F2F week of April 27

  * Eric asked: What else do we need to do in addition to document review?
       - Some possibilities:
           > Revisit roadmap for other specs
           > Revisit plans for interop demo
           > Liaisons with other groups
           > Meetings with other groups

  * The document, of course, is top priority

  * Most TC members will attend the F2F

  * Martin pointed out that we might have a quorum problem, as some will be floating between meetings
       - Perhaps we can advertise certain time slots in which we will need votes

  * Eric will set up a Kavi ballot for attendance

9. Update on Issues

  * This is regarding the Bugzilla issuesthat were voted on and accepted

  * Mark reported:
      - All schema updates are done – will be checked in to CVS repository
      - Editors have made document updates – will merge 3 copies of document into one
      -All issues will then be marked “resolved”

  * Issue #7 – will not be changed

  * Lots of editorial issues (spelling errors, etc.)

  * All others issues depend on the model

10. AOB

  * Main priority for editors is to get the model out asap
      - May possibly conduct an ad hoc call to discuss the model; if a number of substantive issues remain, we will schedule a call in which we can vote on issues

  * Next meeting will be April 12th (conference call)
      - There was concern expressed from the European members that they may not be able to attend as April 12th is Easter Monday
      - The TC explored the possibility of other dates/after during that week, but no informal agreement could be reached
      - A motion was made to hold the call on April 12th, and it was voted on
           > Voting results: 11 yes, 4 no

  * The subject of dialin access for the F2F was discussed
      - A phone is very expensive, and therefore has not been requested
      - We might see if someone can volunteer their cell air time, if they have a speakerphone capability

  * Someone needs to bring a projector for the F2F - otherwise we will have to pay

Meeting adjourned.



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