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Subject: Minutes from Monday Call (2004/3/29)
Please find the minutes of our Monday call below. -- Kind Regards, Joseph Chiusano Associate Booz | Allen | Hamilton
WS-CAF Phone Conference March 29, 2004 1. Agenda review 2. roll call/ member changes 3. assign Scribe * Joseph Chiusano selected to scribe. 4. Actions Action: Eric to update FAQ based on f2f comments * In process. ACTION: editors to draft a model diagram from which the normative specification is derived. * Done. * We also discussed 2 previous actions: - Automatic update of Bugzilla: In process (Mark Little) - Is Bugzilla account creation restricted to WS-CAF members: Closed (Mark Little sent e-mail with instructions) 5. Minutes ratify minutes of March 15 * Correction: This was actually March 8th (there was no meeting on March 15th) * Minutes were approved. 6. Review and approve model diagram and text * Discussion centered around the recently released WS-Context UML diagram and the subsequent discussion around context-by-value * Greg P. summarized: - TC discussed model and diagram on 3/21 call - A series of questions were raised about the material that was published to the list – questions went out to list, with multiple responses - One response from Peter F. related to the continuation of the discussion of context-by-value vs. context-by-reference, as well as a general question about what it means to have multiple ALSs associated with a particular protocol and how those ALSs manage dependencies among themselves - There was not much followup discussion on our list – currently pursuing this issue in Editor’s group to massage the model description to account for this issue - Editor's group hopes to have something out to TC later this week to clarify questions and push discussion along * Alastair entered, and inquired about the discussion of the parent/child relationship issue – was there any discussion of this on the call yet? - No discussion yet - but discussed now - It was not clear from the WS-Context model text what the intent was in terms of parent/child relationship and context – what is point of having a context wrapper in first place? - Editor's group has had a lot of discussion on this [see note above about “push discussion along”] * We are coming close to convergence on this issue * Eric thanked to everyone for their inputs and comments so far 7. Review and discuss document schedule * Eric described how at the Jan F2F, we wanted to have committee draft by end of April - This is one month from now - This includes spec review and closing outstanding issues at the next F2F (April 28th and 29th); could possibly have draft out a few days later * We should have a draft published officially in advance of a meeting, to give folks time to review; Eric recommended this being done by April 21st, one week in advance of the F2F - We should also have a call before draft is published to discuss any outstanding issues * Doug expressed that we should focus on a draft version as input for a meeting; that is, to make it as good as possible for the meeting, whether or not it will become a committee draft - Others liked this suggestion - We would then have a separate discussion on the committee draft-“worthiness” - We could discuss the draft on the next call (April 12th) 8. Review plan for F2F week of April 27 * Eric asked: What else do we need to do in addition to document review? - Some possibilities: > Revisit roadmap for other specs > Revisit plans for interop demo > Liaisons with other groups > Meetings with other groups * The document, of course, is top priority * Most TC members will attend the F2F * Martin pointed out that we might have a quorum problem, as some will be floating between meetings - Perhaps we can advertise certain time slots in which we will need votes * Eric will set up a Kavi ballot for attendance 9. Update on Issues * This is regarding the Bugzilla issuesthat were voted on and accepted * Mark reported: - All schema updates are done – will be checked in to CVS repository - Editors have made document updates – will merge 3 copies of document into one -All issues will then be marked “resolved” * Issue #7 – will not be changed * Lots of editorial issues (spelling errors, etc.) * All others issues depend on the model 10. AOB * Main priority for editors is to get the model out asap - May possibly conduct an ad hoc call to discuss the model; if a number of substantive issues remain, we will schedule a call in which we can vote on issues * Next meeting will be April 12th (conference call) - There was concern expressed from the European members that they may not be able to attend as April 12th is Easter Monday - The TC explored the possibility of other dates/after during that week, but no informal agreement could be reached - A motion was made to hold the call on April 12th, and it was voted on > Voting results: 11 yes, 4 no * The subject of dialin access for the F2F was discussed - A phone is very expensive, and therefore has not been requested - We might see if someone can volunteer their cell air time, if they have a speakerphone capability * Someone needs to bring a projector for the F2F - otherwise we will have to pay Meeting adjourned.
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