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Subject: Re: [ws-caf] issue 84


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OK thanks. If I was confused now, I wanted to update the entry to make sure we remembered later.
 
Mark.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: [ws-caf] issue 84

correct. thanks for adding this to the bugzilla entry
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Little [mailto:mark.little@arjuna.com]
Sent: 15 April 2004 10:09
To: Furniss, Peter; ws-caf
Subject: Re: [ws-caf] issue 84

OK, so you're basically after clarification in the text about whether something is always just for identification, or whether it can also be used to dereference (and in what situations)?
 
Mark.
 
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Mark Little,
Chief Architect, Transactions,
Arjuna Technologies Ltd.
 
www.arjuna.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: [ws-caf] issue 84

The context question was more the concern of what is now issue 92 (PRF-34), though it's only thrown in at the end of the explanation of that.  CAF-84 was more concerned with the definition of things, so
 
rathole-identifier : a URI that identifies where the rats are
 
probably just means it is an unambiguous name for the rathole, but it's possible that some other bit of the specification requires implementations to dereference it (presumably to get the rats out). The definition of the identifier should say whether the required use is just identification.
 
(the distinction isn't necessarily rigid - as with xml namespace ids, where the requirement is only identification, but if you choose to make it an http url AND you choose to put a copy of the schema (or whatever) on the page pointed to, you may be thought of as helpful)
 
 
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Little [mailto:mark.little@arjuna.com]
Sent: 14 April 2004 15:02
To: Furniss, Peter; ws-caf
Subject: Re: [ws-caf] issue 84

I thought you were hinting at the problem that we currently overload the context identifier field so that you can't tell from:
 
<wsctx>
    <context-identifier>foo</context-identifier>
</wsctx>
 
whether foo is a rereferencable URI or just a basic context without any augmentation. Seems to me that is an issue and we either add an attribute to context-identifier or have a different element.
 
Mark.
 
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Mark Little,
Chief Architect, Transactions,
Arjuna Technologies Ltd.
 
www.arjuna.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ws-caf] issue 84

When I raised the issue I was thinking primarily that it must be stated in the definition of a field, rather than that it need be in the schema as well. I've no objection as such to having it in the syntax, but I'm not sure it's needed.
 
 
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Little [mailto:mark.little@arjuna.com]
Sent: 14 April 2004 14:25
To: ws-caf
Subject: [ws-caf] issue 84

 
This is about making it explicit whether a URI is for referencing or not. I agree it needs to be clarified and favour an optional attribute like:
 
<wsctx>
    <context-uri reference=true/>
</wsctx>
 
I think the majority of uses for URI in the raw context are for unique identification purposes, so it's probable that this is only actually required on the context-id field. The default IMO would be false.
 
Again, I want to set up a Kavi ballot for this in a day or so, to try to clear as many of the "minor" issues as possible before the f2f.
 
Mark. 


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