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Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] Groups - WS-Calendar-1 0-spec-wd-06.pdf uploaded


Toby & Team:

Great to see this work starting take shape.  I have missed some of the
calls, so my thinking could be out of sync.  But I have a few comments
to offer.  My comments are below with line number references.  


Line 169 - make sure a reader who is not familiar with "the well-known
iCalendar format" has a reference and ability to learn what this is.

Line 177 -  "A calendar event without an associated contract is of
little use." This seems to be an editorial comment. It does't add value
and doesn't allow for the concept of motivation in lieu of control that
has been discussed in various related group discussions.  Motivation
still requires calendar/event communication even if no contract is
involved.  I suggest simply removing this sentence as well as the same
phrase repeated in line 247.  

In a similar way, other implications of an implied supporting
contractual requirement may need to be re-examined.  We may want items
that include contractual data/ties in the data, indicate that those data
elements are optional.  (These may be ok as is. But I didn't scan the
document with that thought in mind.)

Line 284-286 in section 3 WS-Calendar Elements "One should think of
these elements as degenerate versions of xCal, as a blind cave fish is a
degenerate derivation of a fish outside the cave. The eyes may be gone,
but all remaining elements are the same."  Should probably re-phrase
this.  After looking up 'degenerate' in Webster, I think we may not want
to call out our work in that way nor the cave fish description.  (our
work is higher quality ;) Perhaps replace this paragraph with something
like: "WS-Calendar elements are semantic elements derived from xCal to
standardize data and intervals outside of scheduling interactions. These
elements may appear as both a subset and superset of xCal.  Although
parts of xCal may be excluded,  the remaining elements are the same.  In
a similar way, some WS-Calendar elements may elaborate the objects
defined in iCalendar to taylor interactions to meet extended
requrirements for utilization. For example, in different organizations,
meetings may start on the hour or within 5 minutes of the hour. In those
organizations, people learn the expected precision. In WS-Calendar
however, that precision must be explicit."

Line 432 - I may have missed discussion relative to this question.  Is
there concern regarding two related items where one preceeds or follows
the other? Are we asking for a non-time-based sequence?  What is ment by
"ENDSWHEN"?  Hopefully that is a time/calendar based thing and not
tieing in work scheduling such as the work addressed by 6196 part 6 type
messages?




Gale R. Horst
Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) 
942 Corridor Park Blvd.
Knoxville, TN 37932 
Office: 865-218-8078
Cell:   865-368-2603
ghorst@epri.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: toby.considine@unc.edu [mailto:toby.considine@unc.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:05 PM
To: ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ws-calendar] Groups - WS-Calendar-1 0-spec-wd-06.pdf uploaded

Here is the version, at last, with monor revisions to allign better with
calws work. The document also incldes a link to the CalConnect document,
submitted for public review this week as well.

Here's the URL that will soon work to the document:

http://www.calconnect.org/pubcomment/CD1004 Cal-WS Web Services API
V0.3.pdf

Here is information about CalConnect Public Review & Comment process

http://www.calconnect.org/publicreviewdocuments.shtml

This also provides a link to the document, and also to the review and
comment mailing list info and signup page.

Thanks. I know it has been a push to get to this point, and I apreciate
your comemnts on and off line.

tc

 -- Toby Considine

The document revision named WS-Calendar-1 0-spec-wd-06.pdf has been
submitted by Toby Considine to the OASIS Web Services Calendar
(WS-Calendar) TC document repository.  This document is revision #2 of
WS-Calendar-1 0-spec-wd-06 with changes.doc.

Document Description:
Working draft for informal public comments

View Document Details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=37888

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http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37888/WS-Calendar-1%20
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