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Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] About Resources in the definitions of Terms


Ed and all,

 

A few thoughts on this topic.  I have had limited time to remain as involved in this as I would have liked. But I have some concerns about potentially diluting what started out as a clean architecture. A discussion such as this could indicate that we may possibly have drifted from some of the original concepts.

 

I would argue that a Resource is now virtual in the new grid world we are creating.  If we must think of a resource as always being a physical device, then we would have to make it clear that a Resource is controlled by a VEN.  The physical resource would then be abstracted at a level below the VEN and should not be visible nor specifically addressable above the VEN. 

 

We difinitely need to come to grips with terms and definitions and these terms must also match up with the rest of the framework architecture.  It would seem that an argument could also be made that what some want to call a Party could in fact be a VTN.  If so, call it a VTN.   If we need a definition of “Party” it would seem that a party would (could/should) be described in terms of being a VTN or a VEN.

 

My 2-cents again,

Gale

  

 

 

 

Gale R. Horst

Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI)
942 Corridor Park Blvd.
Knoxville, TN 37932
Office: 865-218-8078
Cell:   865-368-2603

ghorst@epri.com


From: Ed Cazalet [mailto:ed@cazalet.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:59 AM
To: Toby.Considine@gmail.com; ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] About Resources in the definitions of Terms

 

A Party is an entity receiving services and making decision.

A Node is a grid location, except where we use the term VTN or VEN as virtual nodes.

 

A Resource is a device, a set of devices or a curtailment acting as a virtual resource.

 

VENs may be viewed as Resources but  the general concept of a Node is not a Resource.  Resources may be located at a Node.

 

I think It would be huge error to confuse a Resource as a Party or Node.  Resources should stay as Resources.

 

Table 5-1 is fine for Resources.  Just leave it that way.  It is a reasonable way to characterize resources in additions to the resource offer and resource requirements .

 

Note that Table 5.3 ,Market Requirements, in my view is mislabeled.  It should be Resource Requirements.  These requirements are characteristics of a Resource that Parties may which to consider in VEN/VTN interactions to offer and dispatch resources.

 

For interactions where the commodity is identified but not the resources, we can use concepts of availability and notification of Parties, but these should not be conflated with the limits on Resources.

 

Edward G. Cazalet, Ph.D.

101 First Street, Suite 552

Los Altos, CA 94022

650-949-5274

cell: 408-621-2772

ed@cazalet.com

www.cazalet.com

 

From: Toby Considine [mailto:tobyconsidine@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Toby Considine
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:54 AM
To: ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ws-calendar] About Resources in the defintions of Terms

 

What if all occurrences of Resource in the terms were replaced by “Party” or “Node”

 

tc

 


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– George Bernard Shaw.


Toby Considine
TC9, Inc

TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar

TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop

U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee

  

Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com
Phone: (919)619-2104

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