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Subject: [OASIS Issue Tracker] (WSCALENDAR-514) Invalid, incorrect and otherwise flawed Non-Normative References


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William Cox edited comment on WSCALENDAR-514 at 7/28/14 12:50 AM:
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The BPMN URI in the Resolution references the specification and associated documents page including non-normative examples and change history.  The reference to the specification itself is http://www.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0/PDF

The IEC-CIM citation is correct,as the specifications are not on line, and there are 20 or so parts, several of which touch on time stamps and implicit definitions of time interval. The source that everyone working in that space uses is a non-normative UML model.

Given that the use of this NON-NORMATIVE REFERENCE is to examine expression of a class defined in the UML model, it would do the reader a disservice to search and cite all possibly relevant parts, and would cost in excess of $10,000 to actually look at all the parts. Examining the parts I have access to, there is no explicit definition of a time interval; The elements of an ISO 8601 time interval (e.g. starttime and endtime) are contained in more complex classes rather than as explicit intervals.





was (Author: william.cox):
The BPMN URI in the Resolution references the specification and associated documents page including non-normative examples and change history.  The reference to the specification itself is http://www.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0/PDF

The IEC-CIM citation is correct,as the specifications are not on line, and there are many many (around 20) parts, several of which touch on the time interval.  It would be useless to narrow the citations, as the source that everyone working in that space uses is a non-normative UML model encompassing both.

Given that the use of this NON-NORMATIVE REFERENCE is to examine expression of a class defined in the UML model, it would do the reader a disservice to search and cite all possibly relevant parts, and would cost in excess of $10,000 to actually look at all the parts. Examining the parts I have access to, there is no explicit definition of a time interval except in the UML Model.

Moreover, the use of starttime and endtime is usually not as an explicit interval but as information stored in an artifact.





> Invalid, incorrect and otherwise flawed Non-Normative References
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WSCALENDAR-514
>                 URL: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/WSCALENDAR-514
>             Project: OASIS Web Services Calendar (WS-Calendar) TC
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: PIM
>    Affects Versions: PIM CSPRD02
>         Environment: TAB Comments
>            Reporter: Toby Considine
>            Assignee: William Cox
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: PIM WD11
>
>
> Section 1.3 reads in part: 
> ***** [BPMN] OMG Standards, http://www.bpmn.org/ . [invalid on its face] 
> *** [IEC CIM] International Electrotechnical Commission, IEC 61968/61970, various dates, http://www.iec.ch [Invalid on its face] 
> *** [XMLSchema] XML Schema, World Wide Web Consortium, http://www.w3.org/standards/xml/schema [XML Schema exists in two parts, the correct citations being: XMLSCHEMA11-1 W3C XML Schema Definition Language (XSD) 1.1 Part 1: Structures , S. , M. , H. S. Thompson, N. Mendelsohn, D. Beech, M. Maloney, Editors, W3C Recommendation, 5 April 2012, http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-xmlschema11-1-20120405/ . Latest version available at http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-1/ . XMLSCHEMA11-2 W3C XML Schema Definition Language (XSD) 1.1 Part 2: Datatypes , D. Peterson, S. , A. Malhotra, M. , H. S. Thompson, P. V. Biron, Editors, W3C Recommendation, 5 April 2012, http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-xmlschema11-2-20120405/ . Latest version available at http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-2/ . ] 
> ***** I have not proofed the remaining citations under 1.3 Non-Normative references but suggest that the editor verify all the citations before submitting another version of this work product.



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