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Subject: [ws-dd] Wednesday, September 17 - F2F Notes
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Wednesday,
September 17, 2008 At the beginning of the meeting today there are 21 issues
submitted to the TC list. Chair decided to “round robin” issues since there
are 4 people who have submitted issues. Antoine, Vipul, Alain, Dan Issue 6: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00028.html Are we building general purpose spec for SOAP-over-UDP? Ram: We don’t really have all the use cases, as the only
user of spec is Discovery. Are we really the right team to do this work? Issue 6 changed to Active
– no objections Issue 3: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00024.html Capitalization issue. Issue 3: Moved to Active
– no objections Proposed solution accepted Issue 3: Moved to Pending
- Assigned to editors – no objections Issue 18: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00040.html Issue 18: Move to Active
– no objections Proposed solution accepted Issue 18: Move to Pending
– editors assigned to change – no objections Issue 7: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00029.html Issue 7: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Vipul + Antoine to
bring back details of changes Issue 2: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00023.html Issue 2: Moved to Active
– no objections Proposed solution accepted Issue 2: Moved to Pending
– editors assigned to change – no objections Issue 14 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00036.html Issue 14: Moved to Active
– no objections Need to be able to easily determine the binding (soap version) Antoine: Do we filter on binding or
have information in response? List of bindings or bindings? For the profile, the problem
does not really exist. Devices can be small, need to
be careful of packet size Needs more discussion to determine the correct course of action
here. Issue 21: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00043.html Define discovery proxy, what is the expectation? Issue 14: Moved to
Accepted – no objections Maybe subsumed by a issue to be submitted later Issue 8: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00043.html Issue 8: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Antoine to come back
with a proposal How does this impact the way the protocol works? Issue 5: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00026.html Issue 5: Moved to Active
– no objections Do we want to specify SOAP 1.2? It is clear that the specs say only SOAP 1.2 is supported. Are there are other restrictions on clients? We have a lot of restrictions on senders, which are normally
clients. Issue 5: Moved to Pending
– editors assigned to change – no objections Have issue up to number 33 now. Issue 33: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00057.html Issue 33: Mark as
Duplicate issue – no objections Issue 22: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00046.html Issue 22: Moved to Active
– no objections People need to look at this for a longer How does it work in mixed mode? Only in managed mode. AI: Vipul to bring in
text for this proposal Issue 27: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00051.html Issue 27: Moved to Active
– no objections Is this a DPWS issue or a discovery issue? Much discussion on the value of this. Is there a fixed port or leave it open? AI: Alain will summarize
the issue and work with others to try to gain concenus Issue 9: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00032.html Issue 9: Moved to Active
– no objections Note: We need to update the references to rfc 3986 as well
– this will be a separate issue AI: Vipul + Antoine will
come back with a proposal Issue 1: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00022.html Issue 1: Moved to Active
– no objections Issue 1: Moved to Pending
– editors assigned to change – no objections Issue 19: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00041.html Issue 19: Moved to Active
– no objections Does DPWS reference sections – probably. They will have
to be updated to. Issue 19: Moved to
Pending – editors assigned to change – no objections Issue 32: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00056.html Can device host secure and insecure services? Issue 32: Moved to Active
– no objections What are the ramifications or forcing it to be one way or the
other? Does it help simplify things? People need to look at their implementations and we can discuss
further. Can we look at IP V4 vs V6 issue here as well? – need to
submit an issue. Issue 10: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00032.html Multi-home devices Which transport address to use? Issue 10: Moved to Active
– no objections The White Paper does describe this, but does it have to be in
the Spec? People should consider this issue. Issue 50: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00076.html Should have UUID URN Issue 50: Moved to Active
– no objections Should it be applied for SOAP-over-UDP and Discovery? –
Yes. Accept proposal. Do we need a separate issue? No, it applies to both specs. Issue 50: Moved to
Pending – editors assigned to change – no objections Issue 23: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00047.html Lack of clarity about AppSequence. Concern about text? Clarify
sequence id text? Issue 23: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Vipul to provide
clarification text around sequence id Issue 11: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00033.html Merges concept of service and endpoint Issue 11: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Antoine to propose
some text Issue 4: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00025.html Issue 4: Moved to Active
– no objections Accept proposal Issue 4: Moved to Pending
– editors assigned to change – no objections Issue 48: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00074.html Issue 48: Moved to Active
– no objections Accept proposal Issue 48: Moved to
Pending – editors assigned to change – no objections Going back to Issue 22: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00046.html Vipul outlined a set of proposed changes for this issue. Alain wants to the see the whole story associated with discovery
proxy before answering this question. AI: let’s get everyone on the same page on discovery
proxy. Vipul now describes discovery proxy and its interactions. Principles: 1) Clarify
server and client expectations when communicating with proxy 2) Stay
away from proxy implementation details and focus on protocol & interactions There was a strong desire for backwards compatibility and using
proxies in an Adhoc environment. AI: Vipul to write a
paragraph describing this. The TC needs this description before moving forwards with issue
22. Issue 24: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00048.html Issue 24: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: all: close issue 22
first. Issue 44: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00070.html Issue 44: Mark as a
duplicate Issue 52: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00078.html Eventing Filtering Issue Is this is a problem with the printer spec or in DPWS? TC will
evaluate this. Issue 52: Moved to Active
– no objections Issue 51: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00077.html Issue 51: Moved to Active
– no objections Could go further in improving the security section of the spec. Is the intent to mandate a particular security model? Alain
– yes AI: Dan + Alain - to dig
into issue and propose some concrete text to improve it. Issue 12: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00034.html Issue 12: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Antoine to provide
text for a proposal Issue 20: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00042.html Issue 20: Moved to Active
– no objections Editorial, Applies to DPWS and Discovery Issue 20: Moved to
Pending – editors assigned to change – no objections Issue 13: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00035.html Issue 13: Moved to Active
– no objections Should we only mandate UTF-8? UTF-8 baseline? Optional UTF-16 or get rid of it? Dan: Preference to allow UTF-16 as option Vipul: this is similar to the problem with supporting SOAP 1.1
and SOAP 1.2 Mandate UTF-8 in DPS implementations? – accepted Issue 13: Moved to
Pending - editors to craft appropriate language. Issue 54: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00080.html Issue 54: Moved to Active
– no objections What about services that use SOAP 1.1? Perhaps it should be a SHOULD rather than a must? Same issue for is for SOAP-over-UDP? Different problem Issue 54: Moved to
Pending - editors assigned to change to SHOULD – no objections Issue 55: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00081.html Issue 55: Moved to Active
– no objections ServiceID should be explained / clarified. AI: Dan to write a
paragraph on usage of ServiceID Issue 15: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00037.html Issue 15: Moved to Active
– no objections Editorial – will get to it when they implement
WS-Addressing Issue 16: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00038.html Issue 16: Moved to Active
– no objections Proposal Accepted Issue 16: Moved to
Pending - editors assigned to change– no objections Issue 36: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00060.html Issue 36: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Vipul – needs
to bring forward the text Issue 35: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00059.html Issue 35: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Vipul – needs
to bring forward the text Issue 49: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00075.html Issue 49: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Vipul – needs
to bring forward the text Issue 34: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00058.html Issue 34: Moved to Active
– no objections AI: Vipul – needs
to bring forward the text Issue 47: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-dd/200809/msg00073.html Issue 47: Moved to Active
– no objections Proposal Accepted Issue 16: Moved to
Pending - editors assigned to change– no objections We are now adjourned for the day. |
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