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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] Issue with the posted 05 document


Ok, I will be assuming that 

-- we do not make public changes to the tc doc repository in those 2
virtual days. 
 
-- we will post the final documents to the tc doc repository just before
the ballot opens at October 20th incorporating all the suggested
changes. 

Sounds right? 

--umit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patil, Sanjay 
> Sent: Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 2:27 PM
> To: Paul Fremantle
> Cc: Yalcinalp, Umit; Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] Issue with the posted 05 document
> 
> 
> 
> OK. For some reason the minutes did not reflect the precise 
> deadline for the comments. I will clarify that in an email to 
> the TC as well as on the Thursday's call this week.
> 
> On the second point, I was NOT suggesting that the editors 
> change the publicly visible documents until Oct 18th 9AM 
> Pacific. I was rather suggesting that the editors post to the 
> mailing list comments about any anomalies, errors in the 
> specs that they are aware of. This is simply to avoid 
> flooding of similar feedback from everybody.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sanjay 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 14:21 PM
> > To: Patil, Sanjay
> > Cc: Yalcinalp, Umit; Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] Issue with the posted 05 document
> > 
> > Sanjay
> > 
> > I thought I had said on the call all comments by 9am Pacific 
> > Oct 18th, 
> > and then the final version to be available for the ballot to 
> > start 9am 
> > Pacific Oct 20th.
> > 
> > I agree thoroughly that it would be good if we could have 
> > edits in place 
> > before then, so if no-one finds any more anomalies then the 
> > doc need not 
> > change from 18th->20th.
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > Patil, Sanjay wrote:
> > >  
> > > I am not sure if the editors get 2 full days. This is what 
> > we agreed 
> > > on the last call:
> > > TC members need to get all editorial comments by Oct 18, 
> > and the kavi 
> > > ballots will be initiated on the morning of Oct 20.
> > >  
> > > If you believe that you need 2 full days (which seems 
> reasonable to 
> > > me), we could request the following to the TC - Submit 
> comments by 
> > > Noon Pacifc of Oct 18 and open the ballot at Noon Pacific 
> on Oct 20.
> > >  
> > > I also agree that it will be helpful for the TC if the editors 
> > > proactively posted the anomalies, errors that they are aware of.
> > >  
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sanjay
> > >
> > >     
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------
> > >     *From:* Yalcinalp, Umit [mailto:umit.yalcinalp@sap.com]
> > >     *Sent:* Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 12:55 PM
> > >     *To:* Doug Davis; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> > >     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] Issue with the posted 
> 05 document
> > >
> > >     As long as we get at least two days to incorporate changes to
> > >     drafts before posting it to the tc, it should be ok.
> > >      
> > >     As far as Anish's concern is concerned, I agree that we 
> > should not
> > >     update the docs. I am wondering however whether we 
> should inform
> > >     the tc about such anomalies so that we don't hear 
> from multiple
> > >     folks about the same problem in order to indicate that we are
> > >     aware of the issue and it will be fixed.
> > >      
> > >      
> > >     --umit
> > >      
> > >      
> > >
> > >         
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------
> > >         *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
> > >         *Sent:* Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 3:19 AM
> > >         *To:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> > >         *Subject:* Re: [ws-rx-editors] Issue with the 
> > posted 05 document
> > >
> > >
> > >         this raises the question of how to handle any 
> fixes for the
> > >         draft CDs.  Resetting the 2-week clock each time 
> isn't good.
> > >          So I suggest that at the end of the 2 weeks we 
> post another
> > >         diff'd version - where the original version is 
> the draft CD
> > >         w/all changes accepted - and the diff'd version 
> > shows just the
> > >         changes we made since the posting of the draft CDs. 
> >  In there
> > >         we can include the fix to the section 4 formatting.
> > >         -Doug
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         *Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>*
> > >
> > >         10/07/2005 08:46 PM
> > >
> > >         	
> > >         To
> > >         	"Yalcinalp, Umit" <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>
> > >         cc
> > >         	ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> > >         Subject
> > >         	Re: [ws-rx-editors] Issue with the posted 05 document
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         	
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         Umit,
> > >
> > >         Thanks for pointing this out. You're right, we need to do
> > >         'Tools->Update
> > >         All' before generating the PDFs. I looked at the two docs
> > >         (more pairs of
> > >         eyes are most welcome) -- sxw and pdf versions -- 
> > and the only
> > >         problem
> > >         that I saw (wrt updating of indexes) was with the 
> 'Table of
> > >         Contents'.
> > >         Fortunately, there is no problem with the line numbers. So
> > >         this in
> > >         itself would not require us to generate another draft.
> > >
> > >         But I noticed another problem. In the #2 version at [1]
> > >         updated by Gil,
> > >         the formating for 'Fault', section 4, was removed. 
> > As a result
> > >         the old
> > >         section 4 was included as subsections of 3. This 
> got carried
> > >         forward in
> > >         subsequent drafts (if you recall I had pointed this out
> > >         earlier on this
> > >         ML [2]).
> > >
> > >         Not sure if this requires us to generate another 
> > draft that is
> > >         uploaded
> > >         to the main TC page. Since the 2 week clock started 
> > yesterday,
> > >         changing
> > >         the daft now may make some people unhappy. If 
> folks look at
> > >         the diff-ed
> > >         version though it is much clearer as to what happened.
> > >
> > >         I'm inclined not to do any updates to the main page 
> > right now and
> > >         include this as a change when we approve the CD at 
> > the end of
> > >         the two
> > >         week's period.
> > >
> > >         Thoughts?
> > >
> > >         -Anish
> > >         --
> > >
> > >         [1]
> > >         
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/dow
> > nload.php/14670/wsrm-1.1-spec-wd-05.sxw
> > >         [2]
> > >         
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/ema
> il/archives/200509/msg00056.html
> > >
> > >         Yalcinalp, Umit wrote:
> > >         > Folks,
> > >         >
> > >         > I ran into this problem today with Policy spec 
> > and realized
> > >         that the
> > >         > posted version for WSRM spec has a similar issue (I
> > >         corrected mine
> > >         > before posting it though :-))
> > >         >
> > >         > When you generate pdfs (no change bars) either 
> > after accepting
> > >         > changes/turning of change bars, you must regenerate the
> > >         indexes from
> > >         > Tools. Otherwise, the index does not align with the spec
> > >         sections and
> > >         > pages.
> > >         >
> > >         > Just another day in paradise,
> > >         >
> > >         > --umit
> > >         >
> > >         >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Paul Fremantle
> > Vice President of Technology
> > WSO2, "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
> > 
> > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
> > 
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> > paul@wso2.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 


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