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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-01


Here's the latests revisions of the CDs incorporating Sanjay's
suggestions.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:06 PM
> To: James Bryce Clark; mgoodner@microsoft.com; paul@wso2.com
> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-01
> 
> 
> I think we have to nail down the issue of status text rather 
> quickly before the links for CD I are published.
> 
> How about removing the text that refers to the public 
> comments mailing list, web form, errata page, etc. I don't 
> see very many issues with the rest of the status text. Here 
> is the cut-paste of the edited text for your quick reference. 
> Please chime in and raise your opinion if you are ok with 
> this text. If there are no concerns, I propose to include 
> this in the CD I revs.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> -----------------------------------
> This document was last revised or approved by the OASIS WS-RX 
> TC on the above date. The level of approval is also listed 
> above. Check the current location noted above for possible 
> later revisions of this document.
> 
> For information on whether any patents have been disclosed 
> that may be essential to implementing this specification, and 
> any offers of patent licensing terms, please refer to the 
> Intellectual Property Rights section of the Technical 
> Committee web page (www.oasis-open.org/committees/[TC short 
> name] /ipr.php.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Thanks,
> Sanjay 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 16:51 PM
> > To: mgoodner@microsoft.com; Patil, Sanjay; paul@wso2.com
> > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-01
> > 
> >      Please keep my colleague Mary McRae in the loop on 
> this feedback, 
> > as she is in charge of the templates and (when a spec 
> reaches a higher 
> > level of approval) compliance with them.  Copying her here.  I will 
> > share my take on these issues with her, and ask her to work 
> them out 
> > with the committee.  Regards JBC
> > 
> > At 12:13 PM 10/28/2005, Marc Goodner wrote:
> > >Ive looked into this further and have also determined that
> > the boilerplate
> > >is exceptionally dated. The instructions there are from
> > 2002/3 so can not
> > >possibly reflect current realities at OASIS since the
> > updated process
> > >policy and IPR changes. As a very relevant example, the text
> > and link
> > >regarding comments should only apply to a Public Review
> > Draft according to
> > >the OASIS process, not any CD. The boilerplate is in error
> > and should be
> > >corrected.
> > >In the end I believe the TC should follow the intent of the
> > OASIS Process,
> > >instead of incorrect and outdated boilerplate material, and
> > remove these links
> > >
> > >>From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com]
> > >>Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:57 AM
> > >>To: Marc Goodner; Paul Fremantle; James Bryce Clark
> > >>Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> > >>Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-01
> > >>
> > >>+1
> > >>We should adapt the boiler plate to reflects our realities.
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Sanjay
> > >>
> > >>>From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
> > >>>Sent: Thursday, Oct 27, 2005 22:13 PM
> > >>>To: Paul Fremantle; Patil, Sanjay; James Bryce Clark
> > >>>Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> > >>>Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-01
> > >>>Importance: High
> > >>>
> > >>>The boilerplate being used for the cover page of this CD
> > is wrong. There
> > >>>is information there that is inaccurate and in my opinion
> > misleading. It
> > >>>should not be applied on the grounds that it is in the OASIS 
> > >>>templates/samples and in other TC CDs.
> > >>>The primary problem is the public review link. The TC did
> > not approve
> > >>>this CD for public review. That link simply should not be
> > in this CD.
> > >>>I specifically asked if this was a public review and was
> > repeatedly told
> > >>>no. It has been emphasized on our calls that this was not
> > going to be up
> > >>>for public review. Insisting on this link because it is
> > part of the
> > >>>boilerplate seems wrong to me. I dont think any editorial
> > comment about
> > >>>that link not being monitored or the TC not accepting
> > public comment at
> > >>>this time could be strong enough. Why would you give
> > someone the link if
> > >>>they are not supposed to use it? It certainly implies that
> > the TC will
> > >>>be taking comments on this CD at some point in time which
> > is contrary to
> > >>>the direction we were given.
> > >>>Furthermore the comment form does not seem like it should
> > be there if
> > >>>the TC has not released a CD for public review yet. 
> > Currently the form
> > >>>seems to be active but the links to the archive itself do
> > not function. 
> > >>>Who even monitors mail sent to this alias?
> > >>>I am less concerned about the errata link. Again though, I
> > just dont
> > >>>understand why we would put boilerplate text with a link
> > to a document
> > >>>we never intend to produce in a CD.
> > >>>Look, boilerplate is boilerplate. Why are we insisting on
> > inserting
> > >>>information into our first CD that is wrong because it is
> > part of a
> > >>>template. If it doesnt apply it doesnt apply. Strike it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Wsrm:
> > >>>Remove this text from lines 36 38:
> > >>>Others should use the comment form at http://www.oasisopen.
> > >>>org/committees/comments/form.php?wg_abbrev=ws-rx. [ed. 
> > note - Comments
> > >>>are not being accepted at this time.]
> > >>>
> > >>>Remove lines 43 45
> > >>>If necessary, the errata page for this version of of the
> > specification
> > >>>will be located at
> > >>>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ws-rx/documents/errata
> > /1.1/index.html. 
> > >>>[ed. note
> > >>>There is no errata at this time.]
> > >>>
> > >>>* * *
> > 
> > 
> 

wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-01.pdf

wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-01.sxw

wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-01.pdf

wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-01.sxw



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