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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts
Gilbert and Marc, I have answered your request (nominally) to have the server treat the following two HTTP scheme URI namespaces as dereferenceable to the corresponding RDDL documents that you supplied: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510 http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200510 There are a number of other kinks in this CD-02 installation, so I think we need to consider it somewhat experimental (ask Mary McRae for the Chapter and Verse which allows experimentation). A number of links in the RDDL documents need to be repaired, and I noted at least one mismatch between this install and the URIs advertised in the PDF specs (e.g., for /wsrm/ http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf I read: "The normative schema for WS-ReliableMessaging can be found at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1.xsd " whereas the install has: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-schema-200510.xsd We could create a symlink to fix this, but I'll refer you to Mary McRae for ideal solutions in this case. The mechanism currently used to force the server to deliver RDDL namespace documents (dereferenced namespace URIs) is not ideal, and will probably need to be changed: it uses a redirect -- actually two redirects, because the first simply fixes the slashless directory (from the file system and Apache server POV) http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510 to be http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/, and the second uses an HTTP redirect (meta refresh) to get the RDDL document. It's slow, and a kludge -- pending use of the server directives to establish a proper mapping. In addition to the latency that comes from redirects, we now face the issue that I mentioned some months ago on the WS-RX list: conflict between the desire to have a namespace URI match a directory/folder in which the artifacts are stored: /ws-rx/wsrm/200510/ /ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-schema-200510.xsd /ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf /ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200510.wsdl Normally, dereferencing a URI that matches a directory (trailing slash or none) gets you an index for the directory; if you comandeer (use) the directory as the namespace URI, you (may) forfeit the expected behavior, unless you consider the RDDL namespace document to BE the index. We have several solutions (I think), all with positive and negative features. If you can explain what you think you WANT to happen in (a) and (b), when dereferenced, we'll study options at the server level: (a) http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510 (b) http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/ If it's possible to map (a) to your RDDL and (b) to a traditional index, that would still be confusing to users, potentially... dunno. As you can see, it's all experimental, including the ad hoc index files I created to initially solve the index problem: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/wsrm-200510-CD02-TOC.html visible here: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/ http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/wsrmp-200510-CD02-TOC.html visible here: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/ -rcc On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Marc Goodner wrote: > Robin knows how to setup sym links for that. Basically there would be a > symlink "file" called index that would point to the RDDL file. That's > how we keep the latest link for the issues lists. > > Marc Goodner > Technical Diplomat > Microsoft Corporation > Tel: (425) 703-1903 > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:50 PM > To: 'Gilbert Pilz' > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover' > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > Sounds great - but I don't think we can do that right now. I think the > only way that would work would be to rename the file "index" > but I need Robin's confirmation on that. If you have updated files, I'll > try to get them uploaded as soon as I can. > > mary > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gilbert Pilz [mailto:Gilbert.Pilz@bea.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:32 PM > > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Robin Cover > > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > Mary, > > > > There are a number of problems and most of them are my fault > > (how come you never see the obvious stuff until its live?). > > The one thing I was wondering if you could do anything about > > is to make "wsrm-1.1-rddl-cd-02.html" the default page for > > "http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rc/wsrm/200510/";? That way if > > anyone dereferences the namespace URI they will immediately > > see the RDDL document. > > > > - gp > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:16 PM > > > To: 'Patil, Sanjay'; 'Marc Goodner'; Gilbert Pilz > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'; 'James Bryce > > > Clark' > > > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > Please check and make sure the files are working as expected ... > > > Apparently some portion of the OASIS website header was copied into > > > the RDDL files; these aren't working properly. My > > suggestion would be > > > to just point to the OASIS logo from the templates location > > and omit > > > the rest of the heading. > > > > > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISLogo.jpg > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:48 PM > > > > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; Marc Goodner; Gilbert Pilz > > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Robin Cover; James > > > Bryce Clark > > > > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary, > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to upload the WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > today? The > > > > weekly meeting for our TC is scheduled for tomorrow and > > it would be > > > > great to have the CD-02 artifacts published and available > > > in advance > > > > of the weekly meeting. > > > > > > > > -- Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, Feb 22, 2006 10:38 AM > > > > > To: 'Marc Goodner'; Patil, Sanjay; 'Gilbert Pilz' > > > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'; > > > 'James Bryce > > > > > Clark' > > > > > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > > > > > > I was actually trying to say that OASIS does *not* have > > > > an explicit > > > > > policy regarding the reserved use of keywords. I don't > > > believe the > > > > > issue had ever arisen in the past; staff has submitted > > this as an > > > > > issue to the Board TC Process Committee. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:21 PM > > > > > > To: Patil, Sanjay; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; Gilbert Pilz > > > > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Robin Cover; James > > > > > Bryce Clark > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary, you imply that OASIS does now have some > > approved accepted > > > > > > policy regarding things like keywords and products. > > > > > > I don't think that is correct. If there is an approved > > > > policy that > > > > > > covers this pleas provide a reference to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc Goodner > > > > > > Technical Diplomat > > > > > > Microsoft Corporation > > > > > > Tel: (425) 703-1903 > > > > > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:05 AM > > > > > > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; Gilbert Pilz > > > > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Robin Cover; James > > > > > Bryce Clark > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mary, > > > > > > > > > > > > The use of the date identifier in the URI is a deliberate > > > > > decision the > > > > > > WS-RX TC made after sweating over a lot of discussions. > > > > > > Please note that > > > > > > the product version identifiers are part of the artifact > > > > names (last > > > > > > token in the URI) in our scheme . > > > > > > > > > > > > So I must say that currently we do not much choice and > > > > > would strongly > > > > > > prefer to keep the format of the URI as suggested in > > > > Gil's original > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Sanjay > > > > > > WS-RX TC Co-Chair > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, Feb 22, 2006 7:23 AM > > > > > > > To: 'Gilbert Pilz' > > > > > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover' > > > > > > > Subject: [ws-rx-editors] RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gilbert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My apologies for the delay in responding; I've been > > > trying to > > > > > > > research the decision regarding the WS-RX TC's use of > > > > > the keyword > > > > > > > WSRM. It appears that since we did not have an explicit > > > > policy in > > > > > > > place reserving the keyword for use only by the WSRM > > > > TC, and since > > > > > > > the WSRM TC does not call its work product "wsrm", that > > > > WS-RX is > > > > > > > being allowed to use the WSRM as a product designation. > > > > > > There's one > > > > > > > other problem however,and that's the use of a date > > identifier > > > > > > > rather than a version number - The OASIS Library is > > > > configured to > > > > > > > identify TC work products by version number (i.e. > > > > > > > docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/). Is it > > possible for the > > > > > > > editors to reconfigure the documents to match that scheme? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Gilbert Pilz [mailto:Gilbert.Pilz@bea.com] > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 1:58 AM > > > > > > > > To: Mary McRae > > > > > > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Robin Cover > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any word on the review of the WS-RX CD-02 artifacts? > > > > The rest of > > > > > > > > the TC is going to want status from me on Thursday so > > > > I need to > > > > > > > > know what to tell them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - gp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Robin Cover [mailto:robin@oasis-open.org] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:04 PM > > > > > > > > > To: Gilbert Pilz > > > > > > > > > Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Mary McRae > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: publish WS-RX CD-02 artifacts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Gilbert Pilz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Attached is a zip archive containing the > > artifacts that > > > > > > > > make up the > > > > > > > > > > WX-RX TC's Committee Draft 02. The archive > > structure is > > > > > > > > > intended for > > > > > > > > > > unpacking under > > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx. You will > > > > > > > > > notice that > > > > > > > > > > we have included the RDDL documents > > > > > > > > > > "wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-rddl-cd-02.html" and > > > > > > > > > > "wsrmp/200510/wsrmp-1.1-rddl-cd-02.html". In order for > > > > > > > > > things to work > > > > > > > > > > as intended these files need to be the > > default page for > > > > > > > > > > "http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/"; and > > > > > > > > > > "http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200510/"; > > > > > respectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if any of the above is unclear or > > > > > > there is a > > > > > > > > > > problem with organizing the web space in this way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gilbert Pilz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gilbert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm forwarding your request to Mary McRae, > > > currently listed > > > > > > > > as one of > > > > > > > > > the OASIS Staff Contacts for the WS-RX TC, and > > responsible > > > > > > > > for the QA > > > > > > > > > work on approved specs as delegated to the > > OASIS TC Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pleased that your TC has decided to use RDDL > > > documents: > > > > > > > > > it makes a lot of sense to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations on TC progress resulting in these > > > > > > > approved CD specs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robin Cover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, > > may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its > > subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be > > confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally > > privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the > > individual or entity named in this message. 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