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Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] Fw: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and WS-RMPolicy WD 9
Since we are nitpicking ... "none" did have an extra meaning to it. It meant the specific URI defined in WS-Addr. -Anish -- Marc Goodner wrote: > Consistency is good. I just hate the quotes around words thing, to me that is only to be done hen you are trying to impart some extra meaning onto the word that isn't usually there. Quotes around values, like this, seem fine to me. > > Thanks for doing the leg work on this. > > Marc Goodner > (425) 703-1903 > (Sent from Windows Mobile 5.0) > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Doug Davis" <dug@us.ibm.com> > To: "ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org" <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org> > Sent: 6/8/06 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] Fw: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and WS-RM Policy WD 9 > > LOL so I was about to do the "none" issue and went looking around to see > how we had other URIs in the spec. I think all of them are called-out > into their own special paragraphs. I then went to the WSA spec to see if > they used the full anon or none URIs inside a paragraph. They do but they > put quotes around it :-) > So, I'm now thinking we should keep the quotes AND change "none" to > "http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/none";. > Thoughts? > -Doug > > > > > Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com> > 06/07/2006 12:49 PM > > To > Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS > cc > ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject > Re: [ws-rx-editors] Fw: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and WS-RM Policy > WD 9 > > > > > > > +1 to reordering schema/message examples/wsdl. > > On the quotes around "none". Either we should retain the quotes OR if we > wanted to be precise, then include the correct URI: > http://www.w3.org/2005/08/addressing/none > > I prefer the latter. > > -Anish > -- > > Doug Davis wrote: > >>So, >> things we should discuss: >> >>- Should we reorder the schema, message examples and wsdl? I think >>Marc's idea sounds right - schema, wsdl and then samples >>- Who has the source for figure 2? >>- Thoughts on quotes around "none" ? Not a biggie but I do prefer them > > >>there. >> >>thanks, >>-Doug >> >>----- Forwarded by Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM on 06/07/2006 10:36 AM ----- >>*Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS* >> >>06/07/2006 10:39 AM >> >> >>To >> "Marc Goodner" <mgoodner@microsoft.com> >>cc >> ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org >>Subject >> Re: [ws-rx] Comments on WS-RM WD 13 and WS-RM Policy WD 9 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Marc - thanks for the detailed review - comments inline. >>-Doug >> >>"Marc Goodner" <mgoodner@microsoft.com> wrote on 06/05/2006 02:07:29 PM: >> > WS-RM WD 13 >> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download. >> > php/18451/wsrm-1.1-spec-wd-13.pdf >> > >> > Line numbers in this document are inaccurate, particularly in >> > Section 2. I only use line numbers below with sections or pages >> > where there are not two of the same. >> > >> > I did not review the state tables given there is another revision >> > planned. Similarly I did not examine the schema, message examples or >> > wsdl in any detail but plan to. Why are these section in that order? >> > Doesn?t it make more sense to have the wsdl follow the schema? >>* >>Will discuss with editors.* >> >> > Section 2 >> > Change ?and Transmits it? to ?and transmits it?. >> > Change ?that Sends? to ?that sends? >> >>Fixed (in WD14 in editor's playpen) >> >> > Figure 2 is not legible. >> >>Working on it - but a little mystery makes life exciting :-) >> >> > Section 3.1 >> > Line 222, page 11 ?none? does not need to be in quotes. >> >>Will discuss with editors but I think it might confuse non-WSA >>experts to not have it in quotes. >> >> > Line 309, page 13 the 2119 term optional is used and not in caps. >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section 3.2 >> > Line 347, page 14 the 2119 term may is used and is not in caps. >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section 3.3 >> > Line 459, page 16 check for a space between?[URI])? and ?of?. >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section 3.5 >> > Line 530, page 18 change ?below? to ?Section 3.6?. >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section 3.6 >> > Line 558, page 19 reference to ?Section Request Acknowledgment? is >> > not consistent with references elsewhere in spec. Change ?Section >> > Request Acknowledgement? to ?Section 3.5?. >> > Line 562, page 19 ?piggy-backing does not need to be in quotes. >> > Line 615, page 20 strike ?Note:? as 2119 text is used in the text >> > that follows it is more than a note. >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section 4 >> > The first two paragraphs of this section are practically duplicates >> > of each other. The first paragraph can be stricken by adding a one >> > sentence description of WSRMRequired after the second sentence of >> > the second paragraph. I can raise this as a new issue if that is >>preferable. >>* >>Please do - since those paragraphs have been of some concern to some* * >>people I'd prefer to get agreement on it.* >> >> > Line 670, page 22 end sentence beginning on line 668 after > > ?detected?. > >> > Line 676, page 22 change ?defined in the version of WS-Addressing >> > used in the message? to ?defined in WS-Addressing? as we only >> > reference a single version of Addressing. >> > Line 676, page 22 change ?current version? to ?W3C Recommendation? >> > Line 678, page 22 update to W3C Rec value, ?http://www.w3. >> > org/2005/08/addressing/fault? >>* >>For consistency I did this but I think we need to revisit this since* * >>WSA now says that .../addressing/fault SHOULD only be used for WSA* * >>faults - and we're talking about RM faults in this section. WSA* * >>suggests that other specs define their own URI - or am I reading* * >>this wrong?* >> >> > Line 680, page 22 change ?section 4 of WS-Addressing? to ?section 6 >> > of WS-Addressing SOAP Binding?. >> > Line 694, page 22 update to W3C Rec value, ?http://www.w3. >> > org/2005/08/addressing/fault? >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section 6 >> > Update [WS-Addressing] to point to Recommendation. >> > W3C Recommendation, ?Web Services Addressing 1.0 - Core?, May 2006. >> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-ws-addr-core-20060509/ >> > >> > W3C Recommendation, ?Web Services Addressing 1.0 ? SOAP Binding?, May > > >>2006. >> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-ws-addr-soap-20060509/ >> > >> > Update [WS-Policy] to point to W3C Member Submission. >> > W3C Member Submission, "Web Services Policy Framework (WS-Policy)," >> > April 2006. >> > http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-Policy-20060425/ >> > >> > Update [WS-PolicyAttachment] to point to W3C Member Submission. >> > W3C Member Submission, "Web Services Policy Attachment >>(WS-PolicyAttachment) >> > ," April 2006. >> > http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-PolicyAttachment-20060425/ >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section C >> > Line 1469 change ?non-normative? to ?normative?. >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section E >> > Line 1593 the TBD should be completed for PR. >>* >>Can you open an issue so we don't forget about this?* >> >> > WS-RM Policy WD9 >> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download. >> > php/18454/wsrmp-1.1-spec-wd-09.pdf >> > >> > Section 4 >> > Update [WS-Policy] to point to W3C Member Submission. >> > W3C Member Submission, "Web Services Policy Framework (WS-Policy)," >> > April 2006. >> > http://www.w3.org/Submission/WS-Policy/ >> > http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-Policy-20060425/ >> > >> > Update [WS-PolicyAttachment] to point to W3C Member Submission. >> > W3C Member Submission,"Web Services Policy Attachment >>(WS-PolicyAttachment) >> > ," April 2006. >> > http://www.w3.org/Submission/WS-PolicyAttachment/ >> > http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/SUBM-WS-PolicyAttachment-20060425/ >> > >> > Add reference to WSS 1.1 under [WSS] (as is done in WS-RM). >> > Anthony Nadalin, Chris Kaler, Phillip Hallam-Baker, Ronald Monzillo, >>eds. " >> > OASIS Web Services Security: >> > SOAP Message Security 1.1 (WS-Security 2004)", OASIS Standard >> > 200602, February 2006. >> >>Fixed >> >> > Section A >> > Line 253 the TBD should be completed for PR. >>* >>can you include this in the same new issue as the RM spec one?* > >
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