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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form
There is issue of what happens when you do an HTTP GET on "http://www.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/200608/"; (note the trailing slash). If I remember correctly we decided, when we put up the last CD, that such links should also map to the RDDL documents. - gp > -----Original Message----- > From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:19 AM > To: Robin Cover > Cc: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; Marc Goodner; > ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form > > > While waiting for the HTML version, can we get started with > creating the structure for the other artifacts. > > Following is what I think needs to happen. Editors, please > chime in with your yes/no/wait signal before Robin starts > cranking the wheels. > > The zip package (without the HTML version is at) - > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/19691/WSRM-CD4.zip > > The map of the links to their artifacts is: > 1> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608 ==> > wsrm-1.1-rddl-cd-04.html > 2> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200608 ==> > wsrmp-1.1-rddl-cd-04.html > 3> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-04.pdf > ==> wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-04_diff.pdf > 4> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608/wsrm-1.1-schema-2 00608.xsd > ==> wsrm-1.1-schema-200608.xsd > 5> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200608/wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200608.wsdl > ==> wsrm-1.1-wsdl-200608.wsdl > 6> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200608/wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-04.pdf > ==> wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-04.pdf > 7> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200608/wsrmp-1.1-schema -200608.xs > d ==> wsrmp-1.1-schema-200608.xsd > > One question this raises is - should we add links to the > different formatted specifications from the RDDL? I think we should. > > -- Sanjay > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Robin Cover [mailto:robin@oasis-open.org] > >Sent: Wednesday, Aug 16, 2006 1:35 AM > >To: Patil, Sanjay > >Cc: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; Marc Goodner; > >ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > >Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form > > > >Typically, it takes some manual steps to create the proper > links when > >we install the spec components (prose documents, schemas, > WSDLs, RDDLs, > >etc). I'll be glad to help with this; having the "clear map > of URLs and > >the artifacts" as Sanjay advises will help ensure a good result. > > > >None of the (currently) manual steps is so complicated as to defy > >automation, and indeed, full automation (with TC member > upload) is the > >goal. > > > >As to the manner of implementing server redirects: in an OASIS Staff > >meeting tomorrow (2006-08-16) I plan to renew a request for > support by > >OASIS IT programming staff to set up better web server > behaviors using > >Apache directives -- e.g., for delivering a RDDL when a > namespace URI > >is dereferenced. The current implementation nominally > "works" but is > >clunky, and does not support the kind of behavior (I think) > we want to > >see in web browsers. > >Hopefully I'll have good news on this topic soon. > > > >Robin Cover > > > >============== > > > >On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Patil, Sanjay wrote: > > > >> Mary, > >> > >> I don't think that unpacking the zip file will resolve to the > >> appropriate directory structure by itself. We may need some manual > >> moving around of files and tweaking of URLs to ensure that - > >> a> The two RDDL files are retrievable via a GET on their respective > >> namespace URI > >> b> The URLs (total of five if I am not mistaken) for the > >specifications > >> and ancillary artifacts referred to in the RDDL files are > correctly > >> working > >> > >> Editors, could you please provide a clear map of URLs and > >the artifacts > >> that are supposed to be sitting behind them. That might > simplify the > >> tasks of the OASIS staff a little bit. > >> > >> -- Sanjay > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 16:14 PM > >> To: 'Marc Goodner'; Patil, Sanjay; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form > >> > >> > >> Marc's correct -- at this point in time, only staff can > upload to > >> docs.oasis-open.org. It's our goal to build an interface that will > >> support member uploads, but that project's on hold until we > >get past the > >> email server restoration. > >> > >> All I should need is the single zip file which should > resolve to the > >> appropriate directory structure. > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:35 PM > >> To: Patil, Sanjay; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form > >> > >> > >> > >> I agree. I believe we had always planned on > posting the docs at the > >> namespace location there anyway. I think the zip > >is already > >> prepared that could be used to stage it. Only OASIS staff > can upload > >> there is my understanding. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Patil, Sanjay [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:15 PM > >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Comments Form > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I think using the docs repository may be a > better idea since that > >> may also provide stable URI for hyperlinking from > >RDDL files. > >> Editors, do you agree? > >> > >> > >> > >> If we take the docs repository route, then I > think we will need to > >> work with the OASIS staff to get the document > >area set up, > >> etc. Could we get all of that done before this week's > >conf-call (on 8/17 > >> at 1 PM PST)? > >> > >> > >> > >> -- Sanjay > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 14:00 PM > >> To: Patil, Sanjay; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Subject: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public > Comments Form > >> > >> Hi Sanjay, > >> > >> > >> > >> If I can unzip the package to the > docs repository, I will be > >> able to point to each of the formats > >separately as > >> well as the collection of ancillary files. This is the most > >> user-friendly approach. If the files aren't to be uploaded to > >> docs.oasis-open.org, I'd recommend one combined zip, > >separate copies of > >> the spec itself in each of the three formats, and a separate > >zip of the > >> ancillary files. That way the reviewers can download just > the version > >> they want to review along with the ancillary data. > >> > >> > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Patil, Sanjay > >> [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:49 PM > >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form > >> > >> Mary, > >> > >> > >> > >> Would it be fine to provide you > a single link that points to .zip > >> package containing specifications > >in the three > >> formats along with RDDL files, and WSDL, schema files (WSDL > >and schema > >> artifacts are included in the specifications as well), > etc. Or do you > >> expect separate links for the three formats? > >> > >> > >> > >> Copying the Editors Team here > to cut short the turnaround time. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- Sanjay > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Mary McRae > >> [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Monday, Aug 14, 2006 19:07 PM > >> To: Patil, Sanjay > >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form > >> > >> Excellent! I'll need a link to the > >> meeting minutes where the decision is recorded (they can be > >unofficial) > >> as well as a link to the document(s) in 3 formats: editable source, > >> (X)HTML, and PDF. You can send it to me, and please copy > tc-admin so > >> that it gets officially logged. > >> > >> > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Patil, Sanjay > >> [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] > >> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:55 PM > >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks Mary! The background information > >> is certainly helpful. > >> > >> > >> > >> Our TC is going to vote for PR in this > >> week. After that, is just an email with link to the PR draft is > >> sufficient to notify the OASIS Administrator (yourself in > >this case I > >> suppose)? > >> > >> > >> > >> -- Sanjay > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Mary McRae > >> [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Monday, Aug 14, 2006 18:29 PM > >> To: Patil, Sanjay > >> Subject: RE: Public Comments Form > >> > >> Hi Sanjay, > >> > >> > >> > >> The comment process has a storied past > >> :-) Originally an email list to which anyone could post, it became > >> riddled with spam. The cure at the time (three years ago?) was to > >> replace the list with a web form - the only "person" that > >could actually > >> post to the list was the form. Besides all of the problems > associated > >> with a form for trying to provide comments, spammers > >eventually figured > >> out how to mimic the form and spam the comment lists. This > >problem had > >> been going on for well over a year when we finally reverted > >back to the > >> email list, but this time requiring an authenticated > >subscription. So, > >> the posts that you see with the template information were > >provided via > >> the comment form which has now been disabled. The > >instructions posted on > >> the TC comment page do ask posters to provide some > >information, which we > >> can only hope that they'll follow. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: Patil, Sanjay > >> [mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com] > >> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:55 PM > >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > >> Subject: Public Comments Form > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Mary, > >> > >> My understanding is that the only > >> channel for receiving comments from the public during the PR > >period is > >> via the ws-rx-comment list. Is that right? > >> > >> I was browsing through the public > >> comment lists of some other TCs and noticed that the comment emails > >> include some template information at the top (submitter's name, > >> organization, etc). I wonder whether that information was > explicitly > >> included by the submitter following some guideline, or it > >was a result > >> of some comments form usage. Please clarify. > >> > >> -- Sanjay > >> > >> > > >
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