Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

[Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com>]

Mary

I believe that was the final issue to be resolved before our PR. Can you 
confirm we are now ready to go?

Also I think it would be useful if we tried to put together a complete 
list of the steps we need to get our CS together. Do we need a conf call 
with you and the editors, or will email suffice?

I would like to ensure we have it ready to go from a 
template/RDDL/packaging perspective before the end of the PR period. I 
know we will have plenty to do following PR.

Paul



Mary McRae wrote:
> yes, that's fine.
> 
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>     *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
>     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:39 PM
>     *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; 'Doug Davis'
>     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'
>     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
>     Can we handle that after the PR round? If we do that after PR we can
>     always update the various RDDL files with that link and the CS would
>     then point there as well. For now I still think using the ns link we
>     already have for the latest link is the simplest thing we can do.
> 
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>     *From:* Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Mary
>     McRae
>     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:28 PM
>     *To:* Marc Goodner; 'Doug Davis'
>     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'
>     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
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>     We can also invent another URI to be used - like
>     docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm-v1.1.doc etc. - that way
>     even if the date changes we're still talking about the latest
>     version of the 1.1 spec ...
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>     m
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>         *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
>         *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
>         *To:* Doug Davis; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>         *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
>         *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
>         So on 2, yeah we don’t have anything like that. I think the best
>         we can do is a link to the namespace as that could eventually
>         contain the previous/latest links there. The only other
>         immediate alternative I can think of would be the Public TC page.
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>         My vote for now would be to use the namespace. The reason is
>         that if we progress with the same namespace from this PR, and
>         I’m pretty hopeful we will, then the CS will be in that location
>         with a link to the previous CD for the same namespace. That
>         seems to best satisfy the intent.
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>          
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>         *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
>         *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:38 PM
>         *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>         *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; Marc Goodner; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
>         *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
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>         1. I'll remove the [insert...] since, as Marc said, I don't
>         think we have any.
>         2. The guideline says:
>         A bookmarkable, version-agnostic, generic URI serving as a URI
>         alias which is always associated with the latest/current
>         specification instance, thus having a changing referent; it
>         serves to identify and directly locate each successive published
>         instance of a developing specification, through time [Label:
>         Latest Version]
>         Do we have a URL like that?  As far as I know all of our URLs
>         have dates in them.  Can Oasis assign us a non-dated set of URLs?
>         3. Done - as much as I could anyway :-)
> 
>         Latest zip is here:
>         http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/22331/CD05.zip
> 
>         (you guys are probably sick of me sending huge zip files)
>         Will replace the individual files in the CD5 folder once people
>         'ok' it but I think I still need those static URLs mentioned in #2.
> 
>         thanks
>         -Doug
>         ______________________________________________________
>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
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>         02/11/2007 07:54 PM
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>         Please respond to
>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
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>         	
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>         To
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>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Marc Goodner'"
>         <mgoodner@microsoft.com>
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>         cc
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>         	
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>         "'Mary McRae'" <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
>         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
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>         Subject
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>         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
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>         Before you do that ;-)
>          
>         1. in all three spec files -- pay attention to the last para of
>         the Notices section. It refers to OASIS' new Trademark policy.
>         In the first line you'll see "[insert specific trademarked
>         names, abbreviations, etc. here]" - any terms that the TC
>         believes should be trademarked should be listed there and the
>         boilerplate text removed.
>          
>         2. also, for "latest version" the intent is to use a URI that
>         will always bring up the most recent copy of the spec (see
>         samples in naming guidelines documents). Oops - just found
>         another bad link on the templates page.
>         http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateGuidelines.html
>         section 3.4.3 or here:
>         http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#specURIs
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>          
>         3. I apparently also messed up when I created the new templates
>         for OO (and possibly Word). There were supposed to be two more
>         categories on the cover page between Editors and Abstract:
>         Related Work
>         and
>         Declared XML Namespaces
>         (can be seen here:
>         http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateV3.0.html)
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>          
>         No penalties for not including #3, but bonus points awarded if
>         you do ;-)
>          
>         I'm going to go watch the Grammys ... I think you guys have it
>         under control and we'll be all set for announcement tomorrow.
>          
>         m
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>         *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:29 PM*
>         To:* Marc Goodner*
>         Cc:* Mary McRae; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org;
>         ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>         Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
> 
>         Actually, I was hoping you might be able to generate new HTML by
>         importing it into Word  :-)
> 
>         thanks
>         -Doug
>         ______________________________________________________
>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>         *Marc Goodner <mgoodner@microsoft.com>*
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>         02/11/2007 07:22 PM
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>         To
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>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org"
>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
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>         cc
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>         	
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>         Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
>         "ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org"
>         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
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>         Subject
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>         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
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>         Thanks for the quick turnaround on the doc Dug.  Mary, thanks a
>         ton for staying engaged with us over the weekend.
>          
>         A quick scan and this looks good to me. It looks like the
>         correct Notices now, but I defer to Mary on that.
>          
>         This one doesn’t have the HTML in it. We’re we just going to
>         update the previous generated HTML by hand?
>          *
>         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:17 PM*
>         To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>         Cc:* Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>         Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>          
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>         ***********************
>         Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 files after
>         decompression and cannot be scanned.
>         ***********************
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> 
>         ok - let's give this one a try.
> 
> 
>         thanks
>         -Doug
>         ______________________________________________________
>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
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>         02/11/2007 06:05 PM
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>          
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>         Please respond to
>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
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>         To
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>         	
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>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
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>         cc
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>         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
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>         Subject
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>         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
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>         Almost - new Copyright line says:
>         Copyright © OASIS® 1993–2007. All Rights Reserved. OASIS
>         trademark, IPR and other policies apply.
> 
>         And then you'll need to make sure that it's the same in both the
>         spec and the schema/wsdl themselves.
> 
>         m
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>         *
>         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:03 PM*
>         To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>         Cc:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>         Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3*
>         Importance:* High
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>         Mary,
>         am I correct in assuming that if I replace:
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>         with just:
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>         <!-- Copyright (c) OASIS Open 2002-2007. All Rights Reserved. -->
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>         That'd we'd be ok?
> 
>         thanks
>         -Doug
>         ______________________________________________________
>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 
>         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
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>         02/11/2007 04:47 PM
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>          
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>         Please respond to
>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
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>          
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>         To
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>         	
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>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
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>         cc
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>         	
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>         Subject
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>         RE: CD5.3
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>         Hi Doug,
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>         I haven't unzipped yet, but the schema / wsdl *do* need the
>         Notices section that's inserted as a comment at the beginning of
>         the files changed from the legacy IPR policy language to the
>         4-15-2005 policy language ... I'm willing to go the extra mile
>         to get this out by end of day Monday since you're working hard
>         to get everything accomplished.
> 
>         Mary
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>         *
>         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:26 AM*
>         To:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>         Cc:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>         Subject:* CD5.3*
>         Importance:* High
> 
>         ***********************
>         Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 files after
>         decompression and cannot be scanned.
>         ***********************
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>         Editors:
>         Here's CD5.3 with the changes Mary wanted.  I did not update the
>         schema/wsdl as that was just a suggestion and I wanted to keep
>         the diffs as small as possible.
>         Take a look and see if all looks well.
> 
> 
>         thanks
>         -Doug
>         ______________________________________________________
>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> 

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