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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3


Hi everyone,

  The last email I sent last evening still had a couple of things that I think have been resolved but I don't have
updated files and the HTMLs hadn't been generated. I believe at this point I just need the new fileset in my hot little
hands and we're okay to go.

m 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com] 
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:31 AM
> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> Cc: 'Marc Goodner'; 'Doug Davis'; 'Mary McRae'; 
> ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'
> Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
> Mary
> 
> I believe that was the final issue to be resolved before our 
> PR. Can you confirm we are now ready to go?
> 
> Also I think it would be useful if we tried to put together a 
> complete list of the steps we need to get our CS together. Do 
> we need a conf call with you and the editors, or will email suffice?
> 
> I would like to ensure we have it ready to go from a 
> template/RDDL/packaging perspective before the end of the PR 
> period. I know we will have plenty to do following PR.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> Mary McRae wrote:
> > yes, that's fine.
> > 
> >     
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >     *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
> >     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:39 PM
> >     *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; 'Doug Davis'
> >     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 
> 'Robin Cover'
> >     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> >     Can we handle that after the PR round? If we do that 
> after PR we can
> >     always update the various RDDL files with that link and 
> the CS would
> >     then point there as well. For now I still think using 
> the ns link we
> >     already have for the latest link is the simplest thing 
> we can do.
> > 
> >      
> > 
> >     *From:* Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Mary
> >     McRae
> >     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:28 PM
> >     *To:* Marc Goodner; 'Doug Davis'
> >     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 
> 'Robin Cover'
> >     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> >      
> > 
> >     We can also invent another URI to be used - like
> >     docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm-v1.1.doc etc. 
> - that way
> >     even if the date changes we're still talking about the latest
> >     version of the 1.1 spec ...
> > 
> >      
> > 
> >     m
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > 
> >         *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
> >         *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
> >         *To:* Doug Davis; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> >         *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> >         *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> >         So on 2, yeah we don't have anything like that. I 
> think the best
> >         we can do is a link to the namespace as that could 
> eventually
> >         contain the previous/latest links there. The only other
> >         immediate alternative I can think of would be the 
> Public TC page.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         My vote for now would be to use the namespace. The reason is
> >         that if we progress with the same namespace from 
> this PR, and
> >         I'm pretty hopeful we will, then the CS will be in 
> that location
> >         with a link to the previous CD for the same namespace. That
> >         seems to best satisfy the intent.
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
> >         *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:38 PM
> >         *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> >         *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; Marc Goodner; 
> ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
> >         *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> >          
> > 
> > 
> >         1. I'll remove the [insert...] since, as Marc said, I don't
> >         think we have any.
> >         2. The guideline says:
> >         A bookmarkable, version-agnostic, generic URI 
> serving as a URI
> >         alias which is always associated with the latest/current
> >         specification instance, thus having a changing referent; it
> >         serves to identify and directly locate each 
> successive published
> >         instance of a developing specification, through time [Label:
> >         Latest Version]
> >         Do we have a URL like that?  As far as I know all 
> of our URLs
> >         have dates in them.  Can Oasis assign us a 
> non-dated set of URLs?
> >         3. Done - as much as I could anyway :-)
> > 
> >         Latest zip is here:
> >         
> > 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.ph
> > p/22331/CD05.zip
> > 
> >         (you guys are probably sick of me sending huge zip files)
> >         Will replace the individual files in the CD5 folder 
> once people
> >         'ok' it but I think I still need those static URLs 
> mentioned in #2.
> > 
> >         thanks
> >         -Doug
> >         ______________________________________________________
> >         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
> >         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> > 
> >         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
> >         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
> > 
> >         02/11/2007 07:54 PM
> > 
> >         Please respond to
> >         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         To
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Marc Goodner'"
> >         <mgoodner@microsoft.com>
> > 
> >         cc
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         "'Mary McRae'" <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
> >         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         Subject
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Before you do that ;-)
> >          
> >         1. in all three spec files -- pay attention to the 
> last para of
> >         the Notices section. It refers to OASIS' new 
> Trademark policy.
> >         In the first line you'll see "[insert specific trademarked
> >         names, abbreviations, etc. here]" - any terms that the TC
> >         believes should be trademarked should be listed 
> there and the
> >         boilerplate text removed.
> >          
> >         2. also, for "latest version" the intent is to use 
> a URI that
> >         will always bring up the most recent copy of the spec (see
> >         samples in naming guidelines documents). Oops - just found
> >         another bad link on the templates page.
> >         
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplat
> eGuidelines.html
> >         section 3.4.3 or here:
> >         
> > 
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.ht
> > ml#specURIs
> > 
> >          
> >         3. I apparently also messed up when I created the 
> new templates
> >         for OO (and possibly Word). There were supposed to 
> be two more
> >         categories on the cover page between Editors and Abstract:
> >         Related Work
> >         and
> >         Declared XML Namespaces
> >         (can be seen here:
> >         
> > 
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateV3.0.ht
> > ml)
> > 
> >          
> >         No penalties for not including #3, but bonus points 
> awarded if
> >         you do ;-)
> >          
> >         I'm going to go watch the Grammys ... I think you 
> guys have it
> >         under control and we'll be all set for announcement 
> tomorrow.
> >          
> >         m
> > 
> >         
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > 
> >         *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
> >         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:29 PM*
> >         To:* Marc Goodner*
> >         Cc:* Mary McRae; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org;
> >         ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
> >         Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> > 
> >         Actually, I was hoping you might be able to 
> generate new HTML by
> >         importing it into Word  :-)
> > 
> >         thanks
> >         -Doug
> >         ______________________________________________________
> >         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
> >         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> > 
> >         *Marc Goodner <mgoodner@microsoft.com>*
> > 
> >         02/11/2007 07:22 PM
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         To
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org"
> >         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         cc
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
> >         "ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org"
> >         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         Subject
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Thanks for the quick turnaround on the doc Dug.  
> Mary, thanks a
> >         ton for staying engaged with us over the weekend.
> >          
> >         A quick scan and this looks good to me. It looks like the
> >         correct Notices now, but I defer to Mary on that.
> >          
> >         This one doesn't have the HTML in it. We're we just going to
> >         update the previous generated HTML by hand?
> >          *
> >         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
> >         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:17 PM*
> >         To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
> >         Cc:* Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
> >         Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> >          
> > 
> >         ***********************
> >         Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 
> files after
> >         decompression and cannot be scanned.
> >         ***********************
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         ok - let's give this one a try.
> > 
> > 
> >         thanks
> >         -Doug
> >         ______________________________________________________
> >         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
> >         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> > 
> >         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
> >         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
> > 
> >         02/11/2007 06:05 PM
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Please respond to
> >         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         To
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> > 
> >         cc
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         Subject
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Almost - new Copyright line says:
> >         Copyright C OASISR 1993-2007. All Rights Reserved. OASIS
> >         trademark, IPR and other policies apply.
> > 
> >         And then you'll need to make sure that it's the 
> same in both the
> >         spec and the schema/wsdl themselves.
> > 
> >         m
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > 
> > 
> >         *
> >         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
> >         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:03 PM*
> >         To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
> >         Cc:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
> >         Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3*
> >         Importance:* High
> > 
> > 
> >         Mary,
> >         am I correct in assuming that if I replace:
> >         <!--
> >         OASIS takes no position regarding the validity or 
> scope of any
> >         intellectual prop
> >         erty or other rights that might be claimed to pertain to the
> >         implementation or u
> >         se of the technology described in this document or 
> the extent to
> >         which any licen
> >         se under such rights might or might not be 
> available; neither
> >         does it represent
> >         that it has made any effort to identify any such rights.
> >         Information on OASIS's
> >         procedures with respect to rights in OASIS 
> specifications can be
> >         found at the OA
> >         SIS website. Copies of claims of rights made available for
> >         publication and any a
> >         ssurances of licenses to be made available, or the 
> result of an
> >         attempt made to
> >         obtain a general license or permission for the use of such
> >         proprietary rights by
> >         implementors or users of this specification, can be obtained
> >         from the OASIS Exe
> >         cutive Director.
> >         OASIS invites any interested party to bring to its 
> attention any
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> >         ents or patent applications, or other proprietary 
> rights which
> >         may cover technol
> >         ogy that may be required to implement this 
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> >         address the inf
> >         ormation to the OASIS Executive Director.
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> and furnished
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> >         entation may be prepared, copied, published and 
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> >         works. However, th
> >         is document itself does not be modified in any way, 
> such as by
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> >         right notice or references to OASIS, except as 
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> >         purpose of develop
> >         ing OASIS specifications, in which case the procedures for
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> >         the OASIS Intellectual Property Rights document must be
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> >         The limited permissions granted above are perpetual 
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> >         This document and the information contained herein 
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> >         is and OASIS DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,
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> >         -->
> > 
> >         with just:
> > 
> >         <!-- Copyright (c) OASIS Open 2002-2007. All Rights 
> Reserved. 
> > -->
> > 
> >         That'd we'd be ok?
> > 
> >         thanks
> >         -Doug
> >         ______________________________________________________
> >         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
> >         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> > 
> >         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
> >         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
> > 
> >         02/11/2007 04:47 PM
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Please respond to
> >         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         To
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
> > <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > 
> >         cc
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         Subject
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> >         RE: CD5.3
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         	
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Hi Doug,
> > 
> >         I haven't unzipped yet, but the schema / wsdl *do* need the
> >         Notices section that's inserted as a comment at the 
> beginning of
> >         the files changed from the legacy IPR policy language to the
> >         4-15-2005 policy language ... I'm willing to go the 
> extra mile
> >         to get this out by end of day Monday since you're 
> working hard
> >         to get everything accomplished.
> > 
> >         Mary
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > 
> > 
> >         *
> >         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
> >         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:26 AM*
> >         To:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
> >         Cc:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
> >         Subject:* CD5.3*
> >         Importance:* High
> > 
> >         ***********************
> >         Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 
> files after
> >         decompression and cannot be scanned.
> >         ***********************
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Editors:
> >         Here's CD5.3 with the changes Mary wanted.  I did 
> not update the
> >         schema/wsdl as that was just a suggestion and I 
> wanted to keep
> >         the diffs as small as possible.
> >         Take a look and see if all looks well.
> > 
> > 
> >         thanks
> >         -Doug
> >         ______________________________________________________
> >         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
> >         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
> > 
> 
> --
> Paul Fremantle
> VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
> 
> http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
> paul@wso2.com
> (646) 290 8050
> 
> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
> 



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