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Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3


 Should be able to get HTML together before 10am PST.

To make sure I've got the right files, the zip referenced here still has the filename for the spec as the latest link. Did we agree that is OK for this round?

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:59 AM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Cc: Marc Goodner; 'Doug Davis'; 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'
Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

Mary

The PDFs are here.

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/22331/CD05.zip

We still need the HTML files to be generated and the files put into the
right directory structure.

Can you please check the PDFs. In the meantime the editors are working
on rest.

Paul

Mary McRae wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>   The last email I sent last evening still had a couple of things that I think have been resolved but I don't have
> updated files and the HTMLs hadn't been generated. I believe at this point I just need the new fileset in my hot little
> hands and we're okay to go.
>
> m
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com]
>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:31 AM
>> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>> Cc: 'Marc Goodner'; 'Doug Davis'; 'Mary McRae';
>> ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'
>> Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>
>> Mary
>>
>> I believe that was the final issue to be resolved before our
>> PR. Can you confirm we are now ready to go?
>>
>> Also I think it would be useful if we tried to put together a
>> complete list of the steps we need to get our CS together. Do
>> we need a conf call with you and the editors, or will email suffice?
>>
>> I would like to ensure we have it ready to go from a
>> template/RDDL/packaging perspective before the end of the PR
>> period. I know we will have plenty to do following PR.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary McRae wrote:
>>> yes, that's fine.
>>>
>>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>>>     *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:39 PM
>>>     *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; 'Doug Davis'
>>>     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org;
>> 'Robin Cover'
>>>     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>     Can we handle that after the PR round? If we do that
>> after PR we can
>>>     always update the various RDDL files with that link and
>> the CS would
>>>     then point there as well. For now I still think using
>> the ns link we
>>>     already have for the latest link is the simplest thing
>> we can do.
>>>
>>>
>>>     *From:* Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mary
>>>     McRae
>>>     *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:28 PM
>>>     *To:* Marc Goodner; 'Doug Davis'
>>>     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org;
>> 'Robin Cover'
>>>     *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     We can also invent another URI to be used - like
>>>     docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm-v1.1.doc etc.
>> - that way
>>>     even if the date changes we're still talking about the latest
>>>     version of the 1.1 spec ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>>
>>>         *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
>>>         *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
>>>         *To:* Doug Davis; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>>>         *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>         *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>         So on 2, yeah we don't have anything like that. I
>> think the best
>>>         we can do is a link to the namespace as that could
>> eventually
>>>         contain the previous/latest links there. The only other
>>>         immediate alternative I can think of would be the
>> Public TC page.
>>>
>>>
>>>         My vote for now would be to use the namespace. The reason is
>>>         that if we progress with the same namespace from
>> this PR, and
>>>         I'm pretty hopeful we will, then the CS will be in
>> that location
>>>         with a link to the previous CD for the same namespace. That
>>>         seems to best satisfy the intent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
>>>         *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:38 PM
>>>         *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>>>         *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; Marc Goodner;
>> ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>         *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         1. I'll remove the [insert...] since, as Marc said, I don't
>>>         think we have any.
>>>         2. The guideline says:
>>>         A bookmarkable, version-agnostic, generic URI
>> serving as a URI
>>>         alias which is always associated with the latest/current
>>>         specification instance, thus having a changing referent; it
>>>         serves to identify and directly locate each
>> successive published
>>>         instance of a developing specification, through time [Label:
>>>         Latest Version]
>>>         Do we have a URL like that?  As far as I know all
>> of our URLs
>>>         have dates in them.  Can Oasis assign us a
>> non-dated set of URLs?
>>>         3. Done - as much as I could anyway :-)
>>>
>>>         Latest zip is here:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.ph
>>> p/22331/CD05.zip
>>>
>>>         (you guys are probably sick of me sending huge zip files)
>>>         Will replace the individual files in the CD5 folder
>> once people
>>>         'ok' it but I think I still need those static URLs
>> mentioned in #2.
>>>         thanks
>>>         -Doug
>>>         ______________________________________________________
>>>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>>>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
>>>
>>>         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>>>         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>         02/11/2007 07:54 PM
>>>
>>>         Please respond to
>>>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         To
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Marc Goodner'"
>>>         <mgoodner@microsoft.com>
>>>
>>>         cc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         "'Mary McRae'" <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
>>>         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>         Subject
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Before you do that ;-)
>>>
>>>         1. in all three spec files -- pay attention to the
>> last para of
>>>         the Notices section. It refers to OASIS' new
>> Trademark policy.
>>>         In the first line you'll see "[insert specific trademarked
>>>         names, abbreviations, etc. here]" - any terms that the TC
>>>         believes should be trademarked should be listed
>> there and the
>>>         boilerplate text removed.
>>>
>>>         2. also, for "latest version" the intent is to use
>> a URI that
>>>         will always bring up the most recent copy of the spec (see
>>>         samples in naming guidelines documents). Oops - just found
>>>         another bad link on the templates page.
>>>
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplat
>> eGuidelines.html
>>>         section 3.4.3 or here:
>>>
>>>
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.ht
>>> ml#specURIs
>>>
>>>
>>>         3. I apparently also messed up when I created the
>> new templates
>>>         for OO (and possibly Word). There were supposed to
>> be two more
>>>         categories on the cover page between Editors and Abstract:
>>>         Related Work
>>>         and
>>>         Declared XML Namespaces
>>>         (can be seen here:
>>>
>>>
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateV3.0.ht
>>> ml)
>>>
>>>
>>>         No penalties for not including #3, but bonus points
>> awarded if
>>>         you do ;-)
>>>
>>>         I'm going to go watch the Grammys ... I think you
>> guys have it
>>>         under control and we'll be all set for announcement
>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>>         m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>>
>>>         *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>>>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:29 PM*
>>>         To:* Marc Goodner*
>>>         Cc:* Mary McRae; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org;
>>>         ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>>>         Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>         Actually, I was hoping you might be able to
>> generate new HTML by
>>>         importing it into Word  :-)
>>>
>>>         thanks
>>>         -Doug
>>>         ______________________________________________________
>>>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>>>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
>>>
>>>         *Marc Goodner <mgoodner@microsoft.com>*
>>>
>>>         02/11/2007 07:22 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         To
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org"
>>>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>         cc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>,
>>>         "ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org"
>>>         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>         Subject
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Thanks for the quick turnaround on the doc Dug.
>> Mary, thanks a
>>>         ton for staying engaged with us over the weekend.
>>>
>>>         A quick scan and this looks good to me. It looks like the
>>>         correct Notices now, but I defer to Mary on that.
>>>
>>>         This one doesn't have the HTML in it. We're we just going to
>>>         update the previous generated HTML by hand?
>>>          *
>>>         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>>>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:17 PM*
>>>         To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>>>         Cc:* Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>>>         Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>         ***********************
>>>         Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32
>> files after
>>>         decompression and cannot be scanned.
>>>         ***********************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ok - let's give this one a try.
>>>
>>>
>>>         thanks
>>>         -Doug
>>>         ______________________________________________________
>>>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>>>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
>>>
>>>         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>>>         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>         02/11/2007 06:05 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Please respond to
>>>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         To
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
>>>
>>>         cc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>         Subject
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Almost - new Copyright line says:
>>>         Copyright C OASISR 1993-2007. All Rights Reserved. OASIS
>>>         trademark, IPR and other policies apply.
>>>
>>>         And then you'll need to make sure that it's the
>> same in both the
>>>         spec and the schema/wsdl themselves.
>>>
>>>         m
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>         *
>>>         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>>>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:03 PM*
>>>         To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>>>         Cc:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>>>         Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3*
>>>         Importance:* High
>>>
>>>
>>>         Mary,
>>>         am I correct in assuming that if I replace:
>>>         <!--
>>>         OASIS takes no position regarding the validity or
>> scope of any
>>>         intellectual prop
>>>         erty or other rights that might be claimed to pertain to the
>>>         implementation or u
>>>         se of the technology described in this document or
>> the extent to
>>>         which any licen
>>>         se under such rights might or might not be
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>>>         does it represent
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>>>         Information on OASIS's
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>>>         implementors or users of this specification, can be obtained
>>>         from the OASIS Exe
>>>         cutive Director.
>>>         OASIS invites any interested party to bring to its
>> attention any
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>>>         ents or patent applications, or other proprietary
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>>>         may cover technol
>>>         ogy that may be required to implement this
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>>>         ormation to the OASIS Executive Director.
>>>         Copyright (c) OASIS Open 2002-2007. All Rights Reserved.
>>>         This document and translations of it may be copied
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>>>         works. However, th
>>>         is document itself does not be modified in any way,
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>>>         right notice or references to OASIS, except as
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>>>         purpose of develop
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>>>         copyrights defined in
>>>         the OASIS Intellectual Property Rights document must be
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>>>         d to translate it into languages other than English.
>>>         The limited permissions granted above are perpetual
>> and will not
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>>>         This document and the information contained herein
>> is provided
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>>>         is and OASIS DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,
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>> INFORMATION HEREIN WILL
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>>>
>>>         with just:
>>>
>>>         <!-- Copyright (c) OASIS Open 2002-2007. All Rights
>> Reserved.
>>> -->
>>>
>>>         That'd we'd be ok?
>>>
>>>         thanks
>>>         -Doug
>>>         ______________________________________________________
>>>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>>>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
>>>
>>>         *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>*
>>>         Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>         02/11/2007 04:47 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Please respond to
>>>         <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         To
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS,
>>> <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>
>>>         cc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Subject
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         RE: CD5.3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Hi Doug,
>>>
>>>         I haven't unzipped yet, but the schema / wsdl *do* need the
>>>         Notices section that's inserted as a comment at the
>> beginning of
>>>         the files changed from the legacy IPR policy language to the
>>>         4-15-2005 policy language ... I'm willing to go the
>> extra mile
>>>         to get this out by end of day Monday since you're
>> working hard
>>>         to get everything accomplished.
>>>
>>>         Mary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>         *
>>>         From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] *
>>>         Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:26 AM*
>>>         To:* ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org*
>>>         Cc:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org*
>>>         Subject:* CD5.3*
>>>         Importance:* High
>>>
>>>         ***********************
>>>         Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32
>> files after
>>>         decompression and cannot be scanned.
>>>         ***********************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Editors:
>>>         Here's CD5.3 with the changes Mary wanted.  I did
>> not update the
>>>         schema/wsdl as that was just a suggestion and I
>> wanted to keep
>>>         the diffs as small as possible.
>>>         Take a look and see if all looks well.
>>>
>>>
>>>         thanks
>>>         -Doug
>>>         ______________________________________________________
>>>         STSM  |  Web Services Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>>>         (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  dug@us.ibm.com
>>>
>> --
>> Paul Fremantle
>> VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>>
>> http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
>> paul@wso2.com
>> (646) 290 8050
>>
>> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
>>
>
>

--
Paul Fremantle
VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair

http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
paul@wso2.com
(646) 290 8050

"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com



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