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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Review of Errata]
Mary I tend to agree with Dug here. We explicitly chose to handle these features as errata because they make no functional change to any system, they simply fix typos in the spec. However, if we change namespaces then that does change the technical behaviour. I think a change to the WSDL to fix a bug should have the same status as a change to normative text in the body of the spec to fix a bug. Paul Doug Davis wrote: > > Does it change anything if you think of the it as fixing a typo rather > than any kind of functional/semantic change? > > thanks > -Doug > ______________________________________________________ > STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group > (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com > > > *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>* > Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com> > > 11/27/2007 11:30 PM > Please respond to > <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> > > > > To > Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS > cc > "'Mary McRae'" <marypmcrae@gmail.com>, "'Paul Fremantle'" > <paul@wso2.com>, "'Sanjay Patil'" <sanjay.patil@sap.com>, > <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>, <robin@oasis-open.org> > Subject > RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Review of Errata] > > > > > > > > > Hi Doug, > > I’m conferring with Robin as to the best way to handle this. Clearly > these WSDL files are different from the previous ones and therefore > silently updating them without any other action would not honor OASIS > policies. > > The namespace documents should be updated to reflect the new WSDL > files; as far as any existing application goes they should either > change the reference, or since it isn’t substantive, not worry about it. > See the following resources (text below from Robin): > > "Latest Version" URIs for Schemas, WSDLs, RDDLs, and Other Specification > Components" > _http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#latestVersionURIs-schemas_ > > with note: > _http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#movingTargetExample_ > > > One of the concerns (the first) was stated as: > "Clear designation of a "Latest Version" URI as such" > > Example, in the WS-Policy RDDL namespace document, with respect to the > schema: > > _http://www.w3.org/ns/ws-policy_ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ******* Latest XML Schema: ********* > > The following URI always points to the latest schema > (including errata) for the Web Services Policy 1.5 > namespace. The resource at this location may change > as new errata are incorporated. > > _http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/ns/ws-policy_ > > ******* This dated version of the XML Schema: ******* > > The following URI points to the schema for the Web > Services Policy 1.5 namespace corresponding to the > 2007-09-04 specifications. > > _http://www.w3.org/2007/02/ws-policy.xsd_ > > > > *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] * > Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:12 AM* > To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org* > Cc:* Mary McRae; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; 'Paul Fremantle'; 'Sanjay > Patil'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org* > Subject:* RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Review of Errata] > > > Mary, > I've uploaded a zip file ( > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/26228/WSRX%20OS01e1.zip > ) with the erratas (word, pdf and html versions). I've also placed the > updated wsdl files in there. Schemas were not changed. I've held off > including the OS versions for now - just to save time. > > As for updating the wsdl file names - wouldn't this cause a problem if > people have URLs to the existing ones and we want those references to > use the new data? > > thanks > -Doug > ______________________________________________________ > STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group > (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com > > *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>* > Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com> > > 11/26/2007 09:59 PM > > > Please respond to > <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> > > > > To > <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>, "'Paul Fremantle'" <paul@wso2.com>, > <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>, "'Sanjay Patil'" > <sanjay.patil@sap.com> > cc > > Subject > RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Review of Errata] > > > > > > > > > > > > > A couple of other things: > > Wsdl files - are there changes to these files or are they the same as > originally > approved as OS? > (if they are the same, I don't need them; if they are different, they > will need > a new file name and updated namespace documents, etc.) > > Schema files - same as above > > OS versions - These need to be identified as incorporating errata on the > cover, > have new URIs, etc. In reality there is no need to include these in the > PR; this > can be tackled once the errata have been approved post-PR. (they will > get new > status, dates, URIs, etc.) If you *want* to include them in the PR, then the > filenames should somehow indicate that they are cd status (since the TC > doesn't > use subdirs for this purpose) to avoid a naming conflict once approved. > > Thanks! > > Mary > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org] > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:47 PM > > To: 'Paul Fremantle'; 'ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org'; 'Sanjay > Patil' > > Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Review of Errata] > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > Everything looks okay except there are no HTML versions -- can you > create > > those? (instructions here: > > http://oasistcadmin.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/creating-valid-xhtml-v10- > > transitional-from-ms-word/) > > > > Let me know if you need me to do this. > > > > Mary > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:49 AM > > > To: Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; Sanjay Patil > > > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Review of Errata] > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > Any progress? > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public Review of Errata > > > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:00 +0000 > > > From: Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com> > > > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > > > References: <473DD935.5080804@wso2.com> > > > <473de8e0.1aad7e0a.1210.7fb8@mx.google.com> > > > > > > Its referenced from the vote: > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws- > > > rx/download.php/25955/www.oasis-open.orgappsorgworkgroupws- > > > rxdownload.php25906WSRX%2520OS01e1.zip > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Mary McRae wrote: > > > > Excellent! Thanks, Paul. Can you send me the doc? > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com] > > > >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:54 PM > > > >> To: tc-admin@oasis-open.org; Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis- > > > open.org > > > >> Subject: Public Review of Errata > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> The WS-RX TC recently voted to approve errata on the 1.1 spec. > > > >> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/ballot.php?id=1384 > > > >> > > > >> The next step is to start a 15-day public review, for which we are > > > >> asking your help. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> > > > >> Paul > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Paul Fremantle > > > >> Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 > > > >> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > > > >> > > > >> Office: +1 646 290 8050 > > > >> Cell: +44 798 447 4618 > > > >> > > > >> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > > > >> paul@wso2.com > > > >> > > > >> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > > > > generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your > TCs in > > > OASIS > > > > at: > > > > > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Fremantle > > > Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 > > > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > > > > > > Office: +1 646 290 8050 > > > Cell: +44 798 447 4618 > > > > > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > > > paul@wso2.com > > > > > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Fremantle > > > Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 > > > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > > > > > > Office: +1 646 290 8050 > > > Cell: +44 798 447 4618 > > > > > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > > > paul@wso2.com > > > > > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS > at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > -- Paul Fremantle Co-Founder and VP of Technical Sales, WSO2 OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair Office: +1 646 290 8050 Cell: +44 798 447 4618 blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org paul@wso2.com "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
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