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Subject: Re: [ws-rx-implement] Problem terminating response sequence


Dan

Another more likely scenario might be a timeout?

Paul

Daniel Millwood wrote:
>
>
> Hi Vladimir,
>
> We wanted to test the server closing the response sequence back to the
> client.  In the general case (except for the two-way through a firewall
> scenario proposed this week), the life cycle of the request sequence and
> the response sequence are not linked, so we needed a prompt for the RMD to
> know when to terminate the response sequence.  This was what we came up
> with on the last interop call.
>
> In a real implementation, it may be that the server would not choose to
> terminate the response sequence until the sequence expires.  We talked
> about this as an option on last weeks interop call (basically, not
> expecting the TerminateSequence to be sent for the response sequence), but
> decided on the application level prompt instead so that we could test the
> specification.
>
> At the time, the proposal was not identified as a problem for anyone.  If
> it is for your implementation, perhaps the TerminateSequence for the
> response sequence should be removed from the 2-way scenarios (except
> two-way through a firewall).
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> Thanks,  Dan
>
> WS-Reliable Messaging Architect and Team Lead
> IBM WebSphere Messaging Design and Development
> MP 211
> Hursley
> Tel. Internal 248617
> Tel. External +44 1962 818617
> Email. millwood@uk.ibm.com
>
>
>
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>              "Videlov,                                                     
>              Vladimir"                                                     
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>              16/02/2006 17:44          <ws-rx-implement@lists.oasis-open.o 
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>                                        RE: [ws-rx-implement] Groups -      
>                                        InteropScenarios.doc uploaded       
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>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Sorry for the late joining in on this issue ("last message" notification
> to RMD), but why you decided to use an flag within the business
> operation payload instead of CloseSequence for example? This flag will
> never go to the RM layer at least in our impl.
>
> I'm not following the WS-RX TC closely, so that the answer could be
> obvious, but this solution bothers me a lot.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Vladimir Videlov
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: millwood@uk.ibm.com [mailto:millwood@uk.ibm.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:31 PM
> To: ws-rx-implement@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [ws-rx-implement] Groups - InteropScenarios.doc uploaded
>
> As requested on the call yesterday, I have updated the interop doc with
> the
> following changes:
>
>
> For scenarios 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3, indicate in the last application request
> message that it is the last one and how many were sent, so that the RMD
> knows when it can close the sequence for replies.
>
> I have added a missing Clients TerminateSequence Message example for
> scenario 2.1
> I have added a note about how the offered sequence should be used
> pending
> resolution to issue i090 for scenario 2.1
>
> Please review and let me know of any problems.
>
> Thanks, Dan
>
>
>  -- Mr. Daniel Millwood
>
> The document revision named InteropScenarios.doc has been submitted by
> Mr.
> Daniel Millwood to the WS-RX Implementation SC document repository.
> This
> document is revision #2 of InteropScenarios.doc.
>
> Document Description:
> Initial interop scenario doc
>
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> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-implement/document.ph
> p?document_id=16617
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> Download Document:
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