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Subject: Re: [ws-rx] New Issue: Harmonization of Line Numbers accross PDF,DOC versions of working draft


Thanks for the clarifications, Doug, Chris.  

In light of using PDF as the normative source, the issue is withdrawn. 

D

Christopher B Ferris wrote:

>The PDF was created from the OO .sxw, at least for the editor's draft. I 
>would suggest that we
>get a read from someone at Sun on whether the line numbers are consistent 
>between the .sxw
>and .pdf that OO generates. However, since the PDF was generated from the 
>.sxw, it seems to me
>that it would be inappropriate to expect that the line numbers would 
>necessarily match those
>of the .doc.
>
>I created the PDF to permit those without OO to view the document.
>
>Possibly this will clear up some of the confusion. In general, I don't 
>think that this is an
>issue with which we should be overly concerned . 
>
>Duane, please don't upload the PDF. 
>
>All, please don't use the .doc version as it isn't the normative source.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Christopher Ferris
>STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
>email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
>blog: http://webpages.charter.net/chrisfer/blog.html
>phone: +1 508 377 9295
>
>Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com> wrote on 08/17/2005 10:27:29 PM:
>
>  
>
>>Doug:
>>
>>I just fixed the PDF (I can upload it to Kavi separately if someone 
>>wants).  When Adobe Acrobat distills a PDF, it merely copies the line 
>>numbers from the word doc.  The process is fool proof (even I, a lowly 
>>Adobe standards guy can manage to operate it ;-).  The PDF on the site 
>>was probably made from a different *.doc than the one currently on the 
>>site.  I am not sure about the Open Office Doc.  Maybe someone else can 
>>comment on that. If it cannot ensure consistent line numbers with the 
>>other docs, we are creating a problem for ourselves and the audience of 
>>this spec as we go forward.
>>
>>The issue before the TC is whether or not we:
>>
>>1. replace the PDF now with the one with correct line numbers and ask 
>>all issue owners to make sure their line numbers in their issues are 
>>matching the line numbers in both the PDF and Doc files;
>>
>>2. leave the PDF up as it is and ask all issue owners to qualify their 
>>line numbers with the exact document version they referenced, then make 
>>sure the next editors revision has consistent line numbers.
>>
>>I have created a new PDF but will not upload it until I have 
>>clarification.  This really should be a non-issue since it is trivial 
>>but does need to be resolved. I am assuming that the next version will 
>>not have the same line numbering mismatch (at least not between the Doc 
>>and PDF versions).
>>
>>Duane
>>
>>
>>
>>Doug Bunting wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Duane,
>>>
>>>Could you provide some idea how you propose to see this problem 
>>>fixed?  Line numbers depend upon little things like page width and, 
>>>therefore, printers and printer drivers.  PDF files have the nice 
>>>feature of laying the text out once and scaling the entire page to fit 
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>
>>>the space on a printed sheet.
>>>
>>>I propose we close this issue with no action.  We as a group should 
>>>remember to treat line numbers in the available PDF files (and they 
>>>should always be available) as normative.
>>>
>>>thanx,
>>>   doug
>>>
>>>On 17/08/05 15:05, Duane Nickull wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Title: Line Numbering Consistency
>>>>
>>>>Description: I noticed that the line numbers in the working draft are 
>>>>        
>>>>
>
>  
>
>>>>not consistent upon different serializations of the same version of 
>>>>the WD. 
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/13454/WS-Reliable%20Messaging-01-draft-01.doc 
>
>  
>
>>>>        
>>>>
>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/13493/WS-ReliableMessaging-v1.0-wd-01.pdf 
>
>  
>
>>>>These two vary at at least one place (line 502 to 550).
>>>>
>>>>I have not read the *.sxw version to see if it is consistent.
>>>>
>>>>Related Issues: any that reference line numbers of the working draft 
>>>>without specifying if they mean the *.PDF or *.doc
>>>>
>>>>Origin: Duane Nickull
>>>>
>>>>Owner: Duane Nickull
>>>>
>>>>Proposal:
>>>>
>>>>for now: All references to include the document format as well to be 
>>>>specific
>>>>
>>>>for later: editors to fix in next version of WD.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
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