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Subject: RE: [ws-rx] New Issue: Harmonization of Line Numbers accross PDF, DOC versions of working draft
When the WSS-TC recently published its public review documents for WSS 1.1 Mary McRae [marypmcrae@gmail.com] pointed out the following: +++ Also, according to the TC Process that went into effect on 4/15, all documents need to be made available in 3 formats: source files, PDF, and HTML. http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#2.18 +++ I think this means we will have to solve any line numbering problem since we will want to deliver source files and PDF with consistent line numbers. /paulc Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] > Sent: August 18, 2005 12:10 PM > To: Christopher B Ferris > Cc: Doug Bunting; ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [ws-rx] New Issue: Harmonization of Line Numbers accross PDF, > DOC versions of working draft > > Thanks for the clarifications, Doug, Chris. > > In light of using PDF as the normative source, the issue is withdrawn. > > D > > Christopher B Ferris wrote: > > >The PDF was created from the OO .sxw, at least for the editor's draft. I > >would suggest that we > >get a read from someone at Sun on whether the line numbers are consistent > >between the .sxw > >and .pdf that OO generates. However, since the PDF was generated from the > >.sxw, it seems to me > >that it would be inappropriate to expect that the line numbers would > >necessarily match those > >of the .doc. > > > >I created the PDF to permit those without OO to view the document. > > > >Possibly this will clear up some of the confusion. In general, I don't > >think that this is an > >issue with which we should be overly concerned . > > > >Duane, please don't upload the PDF. > > > >All, please don't use the .doc version as it isn't the normative source. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Christopher Ferris > >STSM, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture > >email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com > >blog: http://webpages.charter.net/chrisfer/blog.html > >phone: +1 508 377 9295 > > > >Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com> wrote on 08/17/2005 10:27:29 PM: > > > > > > > >>Doug: > >> > >>I just fixed the PDF (I can upload it to Kavi separately if someone > >>wants). When Adobe Acrobat distills a PDF, it merely copies the line > >>numbers from the word doc. The process is fool proof (even I, a lowly > >>Adobe standards guy can manage to operate it ;-). The PDF on the site > >>was probably made from a different *.doc than the one currently on the > >>site. I am not sure about the Open Office Doc. Maybe someone else can > >>comment on that. If it cannot ensure consistent line numbers with the > >>other docs, we are creating a problem for ourselves and the audience of > >>this spec as we go forward. > >> > >>The issue before the TC is whether or not we: > >> > >>1. replace the PDF now with the one with correct line numbers and ask > >>all issue owners to make sure their line numbers in their issues are > >>matching the line numbers in both the PDF and Doc files; > >> > >>2. leave the PDF up as it is and ask all issue owners to qualify their > >>line numbers with the exact document version they referenced, then make > >>sure the next editors revision has consistent line numbers. > >> > >>I have created a new PDF but will not upload it until I have > >>clarification. This really should be a non-issue since it is trivial > >>but does need to be resolved. I am assuming that the next version will > >>not have the same line numbering mismatch (at least not between the Doc > >>and PDF versions). > >> > >>Duane > >> > >> > >> > >>Doug Bunting wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Duane, > >>> > >>>Could you provide some idea how you propose to see this problem > >>>fixed? Line numbers depend upon little things like page width and, > >>>therefore, printers and printer drivers. PDF files have the nice > >>>feature of laying the text out once and scaling the entire page to fit > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>>the space on a printed sheet. > >>> > >>>I propose we close this issue with no action. We as a group should > >>>remember to treat line numbers in the available PDF files (and they > >>>should always be available) as normative. > >>> > >>>thanx, > >>> doug > >>> > >>>On 17/08/05 15:05, Duane Nickull wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Title: Line Numbering Consistency > >>>> > >>>>Description: I noticed that the line numbers in the working draft are > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>>not consistent upon different serializations of the same version of > >>>>the WD. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/13454/WS- > Reliable%20Messaging-01-draft-01.doc > > > > > > > >>>> > >>>> > >http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/13493/WS- > ReliableMessaging-v1.0-wd-01.pdf > > > > > > > >>>>These two vary at at least one place (line 502 to 550). > >>>> > >>>>I have not read the *.sxw version to see if it is consistent. > >>>> > >>>>Related Issues: any that reference line numbers of the working draft > >>>>without specifying if they mean the *.PDF or *.doc > >>>> > >>>>Origin: Duane Nickull > >>>> > >>>>Owner: Duane Nickull > >>>> > >>>>Proposal: > >>>> > >>>>for now: All references to include the document format as well to be > >>>>specific > >>>> > >>>>for later: editors to fix in next version of WD. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > >
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