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Subject: RE: [ws-rx] i019 - Proposal #5



Jacque,
  You're correct that using additional terms might lead to confusion - and I need to me more careful about that.  What if I simply used the term "receive" instead, and tried to avoid using the term "application message"?  So, for the example you sited it would be:  ...to the RM Destination to indicate that the RM Destination MUST NOT receive any new messages for the specified sequence.

thanks
-Doug



Jacques Durand <JDurand@us.fujitsu.com>

09/06/2005 09:24 PM

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Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
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RE: [ws-rx] i019 - Proposal #5





Doug:
 
Rereading your proposal end-to-end,  a couple of lingering concerns on the terminology side:
 
1. The proposal uses at quite a few places the term "accept" : e.g. "  ... to the RM Destination to indicate that    
 RM Destination MUST NOT accept any new application messages."
The reliance on an intuitive meaning of what "accept "means could lead to some misinterpretation: we all understand that a message could be "Received"  yet not "Accepted" . Although it is implied that a non-accepted message shall not be acknowledged, that is not very clear, as the specification only associates Ack semantics with "successful message reception" .  One way to clarify this  is to add in the Glossary: " message acceptance: commitment to process the message further beyond reception, including acknowledging it." Also, in Section 3.2 beginning: "...The RM Destination informs the RM Source of successful message receipt using a
<SequenceAcknowledgement> header block."  Shouldn't  we add "and acceptance" after "receipt".
 
2. I thought we had defined this before: "application message: a message containing a wsrm:Sequence header". (also candidate for the Glossary).
 
I'd vote for the proposal even without these precisions, but then would have to file additional editorial issues here...
 
Jacques
 



From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
Sent:
Monday, September 05, 2005 5:05 PM
To:
ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject:
[ws-rx] i019 - Proposal #5

 

DougB proposed some good editoral fixes.  Picked up the change about when Close should be used, removed the bit about InOrder+ExactlyOne DA, and the typo he noticed.

thanks
-DougD


__________________  




Using the pdf file at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/13493/WS-ReliableMessaging-v1.0-wd-01.pdf  

here's the proposal:    


Change lines 340-347, the SeqAck syntax, to:  
<wsrm:SequenceAcknowledgement ...>  
 <wsrm:Identifier ...> xs:anyURI </wsrm:Identifier>  
 [ [<wsrm:AcknowledgementRange ...  
     Upper="xs:unsignedLong"  
     Lower="xs:unsignedLong"/> +  

    <wsrm:Final/> ? ]  

 | <wsrm:Nack> xs:unsignedLong </wsrm:Nack> + ]  
 ...  
</wsrm:SequenceAcknowledgement>  


After line 378, add to the description of the SeqAck elements:    

 /wsrm:SequenceAcknowledgement/wsrm:Final    

 This optional element, if present, indicates that the RM    
 Destination is not accepting new messages for the    

 specified Sequence.  The RM Source can be assured that    

 the ranges of messages acknowledged by this  

 SequenceAcknowledgement header block will not change in the    

 future.  Any attempt to deliver additional messages to this    

 sequence MUST generate a SequenceClosed fault by the RM  
 Destination.  This element MUST be present when the Sequence    

 is no longer accepting new message.  

 Note: this element MUST NOT be used when sending a Nack, it    

 can only be used when sending AcknowledgementRanges.  


On lines 569 and 570 change:  

 After an RM Source receives the <SequenceAcknowledgement>    
 acknowledging the complete range of messages in a Sequence, it

 sends a ...
to    

 When the RM Source has completed its use of the Sequence, it    

 sends a ...    


To the end of that para, at the end of line 574, add:    

 Note, under normal usage the RM source will complete its use of  
 the sequence when all of the messages in the Sequence have been    

 acknowledged.  However, the RM Source is free to Terminate    

 or Close a Sequence at any time regardless of the acknowledgement    

 state of the messages.  


Change lines 581 and 582 from:  

 This element is sent by an RM Source after it has received the    
 final <SequenceAcknowledgement> covering the full range of a Sequence.    

to    

 This element is sent by an RM Source to indicate it has completed

 its use of the Sequence, i.e. it will not attempt to send any  
 additional application messages to the RM Destination.  RM protocol  
 messages, e.g. AckRequested, CloseSequence and TerminateSequence  

 may still be sent.  


After line 396, add a new section about closing a Sequence:  
 3.6 Closing A Sequence    

 There may be times during the use of an RM Sequence that the RM  
 Source or RM Destination will wish to discontinue using a Sequence  

 even if some of the messages have not been successfully delivered  

 to the RM Destination.  


 In the case where the RM Source wishes to discontinue use of a
 sequence, while it can send a TerminateSequence to the RM Destination,    

 since this is a one-way message and due to the possibility of late    

 arriving (or lost) messages and Acknowledgements, this would leave    

 the RM Source unsure of the final ranges of messages that were    

 successfully delivered to the RM Destination.    


 To alleviate this, the RM Source can send a <wsrm:CloseSequence> element,    

 in the body of a message, to the RM Destination to indicate that    

 RM Destination MUST NOT accept any new application messages for the    

 specified sequence, other than those already received at the time
 the <wsrm:CloseSequence> element is interpreted by the RMD.  Upon receipt
 of this message the RM Destination MUST send a SequenceAcknowledgement  
 to the RM Source.  Note, this SequenceAcknowledgement MUST include the  
 <wsrm:Final> element indicating that the RM Destination will not accept  
 any new messages for this sequence.


 While the RM Destination MUST NOT accept any new application messages  

 it MUST still accept and process RM protocol messages.  For example,  
 it MUST accept and respond to AckRequested, TerminateSequence as well as  
 CloseSequence messages.  Note, subsequent CloseSequence messages have no  

 effect on the state of the sequence.


 In the case where the RM Destination wishes to discontinue use of a
sequence it may 'close' the sequence itself.  Please see wsrm:Final
above and the Sequence Closed fault below. Note the SequenceClosed
Fault SHOULD be used in place of the SequenceTerminated Fault,
whenever possible, to allow the RM Source to still receive
 Acknowledgements.


 The following exemplar defines the CloseSequence syntax:  
   <wsrm:CloseSequence wsrm:Identifier="xs:anyURI"/>    


 /wsrm:CloseSequence  

 This element is sent by an RM Source to indicate that the RM    
 Destination MUST NOT accept any new messages for this sequence.  
 Any attempt to deliver additional messages to this sequence    

 MUST generate a SequenceClosed fault by the RM Destination.    


 /wsrm:CloseSequence@Identifier  
 This required attribute contains an absolute URI conformant    

 with RFC2396 that uniquely identifies the sequence.  


 /wsrm:CloseSequence/{any}    

 This is an extensibility mechanism to allow different (extensible)    

 types of information, based on a schema, to be passed.    

   
 /wsrm:CloseSequence@{any}  

 This is an extensibility mechanism to allow additional attributes,    
 based on schemas, to be added to the element.  


 A <wsrm:CloseSequenceResponse> is sent in the body of a response message by    
 an RM Destination in response to receipt of a <wsrm:CloseSequence> request  

 message.  It indicates that the RM Destination has closed the  
 sequence.  


 The following exemplar defines the <wsrm:CloseSequenceResponse> syntax:    


 /wsrm:CloseSequenceResponse  

 The element is sent in the body of a response message by    
 an RM Destination in response to receipt of a <wsrm:CloseSequence> request  

 message.  It indicates that the RM Destination has closed the  
 sequence.  


 /wsrm:CloseSequenceResponse/{any}  
 This is an extensibility mechanism to allow different (extensible)    

 types of information, based on a schema, to be passed.    

   
 /wsrm:CloseSequenceResponse@{any}    

 This is an extensibility mechanism to allow additional attributes,    
 based on schemas, to be added to the element.  


On lines 735 and 746 make these faults non-terminating by removing:    

 It is an unrecoverable error and terminates the Sequence.    

   
After line 760, add a new fault:  

 4.8 Sequence Closed    

 This fault is sent by an RM Destination to indicate that the
 specified sequence has been closed.
 Properties:    

 [Code] Sender  
 [Subcode] wsrm:SequenceClosed  
 [Reason] The sequence is closed and can not accept new messages.  
 [Detail] <wsrm:Identifier...> xs:anyURI </wsrm:Identifier>


Add the proper XML to the schema and WSDL....  


thanks,    

-Doug  



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