Re: [ws-rx] CD8

[Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com>]

Dug

Thanks very much for all your hard work on this.

Anish - what are your thoughts on the CD8.01 proposal outlined below?

Paul

Doug Davis wrote:
> 
> All,
> A new folder called "CD08" has been created in the TC's document section 
> [1].  In there you'll find 3 pdf files that shows the latest version of 
> the specs with the WS-Policy namespace URI fixed:
>    WS-RM: 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22965/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-07.pdf 
> 
>    WS-RMP: 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22966/wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-08.pdf 
> 
>    WS-MC: 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22967/wsmc-1.0-spec-cd-04.pdf 
> 
> 
> and there's also a zip file:
>    ZIP: 
>  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22964/WSRX%20CD8.zip 
> 
> that contains everything, including 2 *-diff.pdf files showing what was 
> changed from the old CD (for just MC and RMP - RM did not change). The 
> only changes you should see in there are:
> 1 - increase in the CD version # (on title page and footers)
> 2 - update to the "previous version" names/URL - needed since we bumped 
> up the CD version #
> 3 - fix to the WS-Policy namespace URI
> 
> I encourage everyone to look these over to ensure that not only is the 
> URI correct but also that no other unintended changes were made.
> 
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> 
> 
> Odds are the issue of pointing to the CR version of WS-Policy will come 
> up on today's conf call, so to see if we can move things along there's 
> also a new "CD08.1" folder. In there, again, you'll find 3 pdf files:
>    WS-RM: 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22969/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-07.pdf 
> 
>    WS-RMP: 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22970/wsrmp-1.1-spec-cd-08.pdf 
> 
>    WS-MC: 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22971/wsmc-1.0-spec-cd-04.pdf 
> 
> and a zip file:
>    ZIP: 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/22968/WSRX%20CD8.1.zip 
> 
> The files in this folder contain all of the changes mentioned above. 
>  However, WS-RMP and WS-MC also contain the following additional changes 
> (which you'll see in the *-diff pdfs):
> 1 - removed "wsp" from the WS-RMP namespace table (not change needed for 
> WS-MC)
> 2 - added the following sentence to the "Namespace" section of WS-RMP 
> and WS-MC:
> The assertions defined within this specification have been designed to 
> work independently of a specific version of WS-Policy and WS-Policy 
> Attachment. Within this specification the use of the namespace prefix 
> "wsp" refers generically to the WS-Policy namespace, not a specific 
> version.
> 3 - In WS-RMP, moved the references for WS-Policy and 
> WS-PolicyAttachments to be non-normative (no change needed for WS-MC)
> 
> Note that the WS-Policy/Attachments references themselves still point to 
> the CR versions of the specs.
> 
> It seems we need to balance our desire to reference the latest version 
> of WS-Policy with our immediate need to also be able to support existing 
> customers. Maybe the above set of changes could allow both camps to 
> squint a little and be able to move on.  With these changes our specs 
> clearly push people towards the CR version of WS-Policy but still 
> acknowledges that these assertions we're defining are really independent 
> of any version of WS-Policy.  *Note that none of the schema files 
> actually reference WS-Policy at all*.  So, given that all of these WS-* 
> specs are supposed to be composible, it seems reasonable to create our 
> assertions (and specs) in such a way that they not only work with the CR 
> version but with any subsequence versions of WS-Policy that the W3C may 
> create. If the WS-Policy WG were to rev the WS-Policy specs it would be 
> a shame to have to update WS-RMP and WS-MC just to update our WS-Policy 
> namespaces/references.  (Of course, if WS-Policy were to change in such 
> a way that our assertions themselves needed to be changed to fit into 
> some new framework then we'd have to reopen our specs.)   Anyway, please 
> look over this proposal and see what you think....
> 
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> 
> 
> [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/documents.php
> 
> thanks
> -Doug
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