Re: Result of Voting on WS-ReliableMessaging 1.1 as OASIS Standard]

[Jeff Mischkinsky <jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com>]

hi,
   I assume from this somewhat cryptic email, that the TC will soon  
be taking a special majority vote on whether to "override" the NO  
comment and forge ahead.

   Oracle has looked at the no comment in some detail.

   From our analysis we find ourselves in agreement that relying upon  
the Microsoft OSP is not suitable for complying with the requirements  
of the OASIS IPR policy. The OASIS IPR Policy is stronger with  
respect to:
    specification coverage - the obligation is for the entire  
specification, not just the mandatory parts;
    defensive suspension;
    re-distribution requirements;
    and possibly some other points as well

BUT we believe that this is NOT relevant to this discussion and our  
ultimate vote.

Under the OASIS IPR policy, which all members of the TC are legally  
bound to by the OASIS membership agreement, once the 60 day  
participation requirement is met, TC members are legally obligated to  
grant licenses (or a suitable covenant not to sue/non-assert) to  
implementers of the approved specification.

In this case Microsoft have said they will do that twice, once by  
becoming and maintaining TC membership, and second in their IPR  
declaration. We assume that all the TC member companies will do the  
right thing when the time comes for implementers to seek licenses for  
implementation of the WS-RX TC's specifications.

So from Oracle's perspective, the only issuee that could arise is if  
Microsoft were to state that they were relying on the OSP as the  
basis for compliance.

cheers,
   jeff


On Jun 04, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote:

> Folks
>
> In preparation for this week's call can I propose you read the  
> following text from the TC procedures:
>
> However, if negative votes amounting to less than 15 percent of the  
> voting membership have been cast, the TC shall be notified of the  
> negative votes, after which the TC shall have 30 days to take one  
> of the following actions by Resolution of a Special Majority Vote:  
> (a) request the TC Administrator to approve the specification as  
> submitted despite the negative votes; (b) withdraw the submission  
> entirely; or (c) submit an amended specification, in which case the  
> amended submission shall be considered as if it were a new  
> submission, except that information regarding previous votes and  
> any disposition of comments received in previous votes shall  
> accompany the amended submission.
>
> Paul
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ws-rx] Result of Voting on WS-ReliableMessaging 1.1 as  
> OASIS Standard
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:35:44 -0400
> From: Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> Reply-To: <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> Organization: OASIS
> To: <members@lists.oasis-open.org>,	<tc-announce@lists.oasis-open.org>
> CC: 'wsrx' <ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org>
>
> OASIS members:
>
> The ballots for approval of WS-ReliableMessaging 1.1 (announced at  
> [1]) has
> closed.  There were sufficient affirmative votes to approve the  
> specification.
> However, because there was a negative vote, the Web Services  
> Reliable Exchange
> (WS-RX) Technical Committee must decide how to proceed, as provided  
> in the OASIS
> TC Process, at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#3.4  
> A further
> announcement will be made to this list regarding their disposition  
> of the vote.
>
> The full text of the comment on the "no" vote can be seen at:
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/voting/ 
> vote_details.php?id=1291&vot
> er_id=7570
>
> Mary
>
> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/200705/ 
> msg00000.html
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Mary P McRae
> Manager of TC Administration, OASIS
> email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> web: www.oasis-open.org
>
>
>
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