RE: RE: [ws-sx] Issue 116: Is Appendix D Normative?

[Marc Goodner <mgoodner@microsoft.com>]

We still believe that advice is correct though it cannot be inferred from SP alone. We're working on an explanation we'll send in for issue 115 separately.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Lockhart [mailto:hlockhar@bea.com]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:18 AM
To: Marc Goodner; ws-sx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-sx] Issue 116: Is Appendix D Normative?

Ok, then where specifically does rule D.4 #3 come from? (for example)

Hal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:55 AM
> To: Marc Goodner; Hal Lockhart; ws-sx@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [ws-sx] Issue 116: Is Appendix D Normative?
>
> I've looked into this and Appendix D was added to SP per issue 33.
>
> From Gudge's accepted proposal for that issue:
> "I think this information belongs in an appendix, as it's really a
> collation of existing material."
>
> So Appendix D is not normative and the material does exist elsewhere.
I
> believe 116 can be closed with no action.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:33 AM
> To: Hal Lockhart; ws-sx@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [ws-sx] Issue 116: Is Appendix D Normative?
>
> Issue 116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Lockhart [mailto:hlockhar@bea.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:12 PM
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> Cc: Marc Goodner
> Subject: [ws-sx] NEW Issue: Is Appendix D Normative?
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> Protocol:  ws-sp
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>
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/20578/ws-securitypolic
> y-1.2-spec-ed-01-r10-diff.pdf
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> Artifact:  spec
>
> Type:
>
> editorial
>
> Title:
>
> Is Appendix D normative or is it just a summary of information found
> elsewhere in the spec as Appendix A is?
>
> Description:
>
> The last sentence of section 1 says "Section 11, all examples and all
> Appendices are non-normative." That suggests that Appendix D is a
> summary of normative information which is found elsewhere. However, I
> can not find any other source of the information in WS-SP. If Appendix
D
> is non-normative, then I question why it is in the document at all.
>
> Note that Appendix A explicitly says it is non-normative, suggesting
> that some Appendices may be. Appendix B could conceivably be
considered
> normative, it is hard to tell. Appendix C is examples, so it seems
safe
> to assume they are not normative, however it might be good to say
> explicitly that if Appendix C conflicts with section 6.7 then 6.7
takes
> precedence.
>
> Related issues:
>
> My previous issue.
>
> Proposed Resolution:
>
> Clarify which Appendices are normative.