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Subject: WS-SX Minutes June 13th

WS-SX Minutes June 13th


We are grateful to Nortel for sponsoring this call



1. Call to order/roll call

Status Change:

Gained Voting Status:

Will Hopkins, BEA


Lost Voting Status:

Jeff Mischkinsky, Oracle,

Norman Brickman, Mitre Corporation



Prateek Mishra, Oracle

Symon Chang;BEA Systems, Inc.

Will Hopkins;BEA Systems, Inc.

Hal Lockhart;BEA Systems, Inc.

Denis Pilipchuk;BEA Systems, Inc.

Corinna Witt;BEA Systems, Inc.

Yakov Sverdlov;CA*

Toshihiro Nishimura;Fujitsu Limited*

Greg Whitehead;Hewlett-Packard*

Ching-Yun (C.Y.) Chao;IBM

Henry (Hyenvui) Chung;IBM

Kelvin Lawrence;IBM

Michael McIntosh;IBM

Anthony Nadalin;IBM

Bruce Rich;IBM

Mike Lyons;Layer 7 Technologies Inc.*

Jan Alexander;Microsoft Corporation

Paul Cotton;Microsoft Corporation

Colleen Evans;Microsoft Corporation

Vijay Gajjala;Microsoft Corporation

Marc Goodner;Microsoft Corporation

Chris Kaler;Microsoft Corporation

Frederick Hirsch;Nokia Corporation*

Abbie Barbir;Nortel

Rich Levinson;Oracle Corporation

Ashok Malhotra;Oracle Corporation

Martin Raepple;SAP AG*

Tony Gullotta;SOA Software Inc.

Jiandong Guo;Sun Microsystems

Don Adams;TIBCO Software Inc.


2. Reading/Approving minutes from May 30th 2007 [1] Approved.


3. TC Logistics (10 minutes or less)



4. Security Policy standard ballot status Member familiarization in progress. Vote starts in two days. Please make sure your voting rep knows.


5. Issues list [2]

- Actions


AI-2007-04-18-03 - Greg Carpenter will log new issues to ensure that the TC revisits normative language usage in the next revision of specs.

Still open.


AI-2007-05-15-02 - Add additional Bridge access numbers to the web site and agendas Still open.


AI-2007-05-15-03 - Editors will create draft errata docs for SX specs using the WSS errata documents as a template Still open.


AI-2007-05-30-01 - Marc Goodner: Analyze schema/example discrepancy described in issue i123 and report back to TC http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200705/msg00066.html



AI-2007-05-30-02 - Marc Goodner: Find previous discussion/resolution related to active issue i134 and report back to TC Closed http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200706/msg00024.html


- Issues



New issues

i135   Need provision in the spec/schema for attachment content signature

Moved to active.


i136   Incorrect URI for password digest in the example 

Moved to pending, assign to editors


i137   Support for more stringent security implementation in WS-SP as per requirements in WS-SP Usecases document 

Previously discussed as issue 132


Noted that the example document contains advice not coming from SP itself Members need more time Moved to active.


i138   Example 2.2.3 - Editorial correction needed

Moved to pending, assigned to editors


i139   WS-SP: Incorrect spelling of Issued Tokens

Moved to pending, assigned to editors


i140   WS-SP examples Draft : Incorrect order of <wsu:Timestamp> element for Strict Layout

Moved to pending, assigned to editors


ER005   Restriction on Encryption of Headers 

Moved to active.


ER006   The specification states that if [Timestamp] is false, thenwsu:Timestamp should not be present inside <wsse:Security> header. 

Moved to active.

AI-2007-06-13-01 Marc Goodner Get proposal to list.


ER007   Minor editorial addition to <ContentEncryptedElements> Assertion 

Moved to pending, assigned to editors



i123   Example 

Closed with no action


i130   Example 

Tony to respond with more data within the next two weeks.


i134   Policy Assertion Parameters and alternatives 


Marc explained his analysis of issue and proposal in above message.

Proposal in above message accepted, assigned to editors Issue  to be renumbered as errata




ER001   Inconsistent IncludeToken URI between spec and schema xsd file 

ER002   Editorial comments on SP 

ER003   Clarification of policy usage for derived keys in SC 

ER004   Wrong Security Context Token assertion in example 


6. Continue discussion of SP examples document

Need updated draft, editors can get it out before next meeting.


What is there agreement on?

There was a lot of support on list for examples.

Agreed on need for correct examples.


What are criteria for CD? What are criteria to be done?

Discussion of CS vs. CD, what was previously decided?

AI-2007-06-13-02 Marc to find previous minutes when this was discussed

Hal noted that going to CS requires a PR, thinks a PR would be useful for this document.

Tony notes concern that it be correct, that there are other complex specs without examples docs, precedence of examples documents that were not taken to CS

Rich concerned about whether or not we want document vs. need to make it as correct as possible, being pulled in opposite directions.

Hal notes examples useful to people not participating in TC, since charter is first step willing to make motion to deliver examples document without charter change

Rich notes relation of examples to other interops


Do we need amendment to charter (for additional output document)?

Request for chairs to provide guidance

Chris notes preference for following trends that based on decision to amend charter to change a spec reference a new output document would seem to warrant a charter clarification

Martin noted that the question is about the format, not the content, is a charter change required? Suggest that should be asked of the OASIS staff


Chris asks for more time, thinks he understands where people stand, wants to pole others about what other OASIS TCs have done


7. Other business

AI-2007-06-13-02 Chairs to update public website

AI-2007-06-13-03 Chairs cancel meeting next week and the 4th


8. Adjournment


[1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200706/msg00015.html

[2] http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/issues/Issues.xml




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