RE: [ws-tx] Groups - Minutes - Jan. 26, 2006 (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) uploaded

["Paul Knight" <paul.knight@nortel.com>]

Hi Ian and all,

Here is a proposal for revised text:

"Ian:  Summarizing:  In Alastair's proposal with the "identifiable
participant" - the coordinator is responsible for detecting duplicate
registration.  In the "encapsulated participant" solution, all the info
required for comparison to see whether a message is targeted at a
[missed by scribe].....    It is more in line with the philosophy of
using EPRs, where the creator of the EPR is the one to perform the role
of comparator. 
Ian: The end-point approach seems superior to delegating that to a
coordinator, using the participant IDs which adds a burden on both the
participants and coordinator.  We can solve the problem as we do now
anyway."

Regards,
Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Robinson [mailto:ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com] 
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:47 AM
> To: Knight, Paul [BL60:1A14:EXCH]
> Cc: ws-tx@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [ws-tx] Groups - Minutes - Jan. 26, 2006 
> (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) uploaded
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> Hi Paul.
> Thanks once again from grateful chairs. See <ir>...</ir>
> 
> During the discussion of issue 007, some of my words have 
> been attributed
> to Alastair:
> 
> "
> Ian:  Summarizing:  In Alastair's proposal the identifiable 
> participant -
> the coordinator is responsible for detecting duplicate registration.
> 
> Alastair (<ir>should still be Ian</ir>) : <ir>In</ir>The encapsulated
> participant solution, all the info required for comparison to 
> see whether a
> message is targeted at [missed]....<ir>the correct 
> participant  instance is
> encapsulated in the participant EPR itself. </ir>. It is more 
> in line with
> the philosophy of using EPRS, where the creator of the EPR is 
> the one to
> perform the role of comparator.  [who?]:<ir>still Ian</ir> 
> The end-point
> approach seems superior to delegating that to a coordinator, using the
> participant IDs which adds a burden on both the participants and
> coordinator.  We can solve the problem as we do now anyway.
> "
> 
> Since I invented the labels "identifiable participant" and 
> "encapsulated
> participant" for the purposes of distinguishing the two positions, you
> might want to put these in quotation marks or similar.
> 
> Regards,
> Ian Robinson
> STSM, WebSphere Messaging and Transactions Architect
> IBM Hursley Lab, UK
> ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com
> 
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> In creating this minutes document on the OASIS site, I am 
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> handling corrections, but it's new to me.
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