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Subject: RE: [ws-tx] Groups - Minutes - Jan. 26, 2006 (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) uploaded
Thanks, got it... Will include in the updated minutes. The first paragraph is now: "Ian: Summarizing: In Alastair's proposal with the "identifiable participant" - the coordinator is responsible for detecting duplicate registration. In the "encapsulated participant" solution, all the info required for comparison to see whether a message is targeted at a correct participant instance is encapsulated in the participant EPR itself. It is more in line with the philosophy of using EPRs, where the creator of the EPR is the one to perform the role of comparator. " Regards, Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Robinson [mailto:ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:20 AM > To: Knight, Paul [BL60:1A14:EXCH] > Cc: ws-tx@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [ws-tx] Groups - Minutes - Jan. 26, 2006 > (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) uploaded > > > > > > > Paul, thanks. The [missed by scribe] text is: "correct > participant instance > is encapsulated in the participant EPR itself". > > Regards, > Ian Robinson > STSM, WebSphere Messaging and Transactions Architect > IBM Hursley Lab, UK > ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com > > > > > "Paul Knight" > > <paul.knight@nort > > el.com> > To > Ian > Robinson/UK/IBM@IBMGB > 30/01/2006 22:53 > cc > > <ws-tx@lists.oasis-open.org> > > Subject > RE: [ws-tx] Groups - > Minutes - Jan. > 26, 2006 > > > (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) > uploaded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ian and all, > > Here is a proposal for revised text: > > "Ian: Summarizing: In Alastair's proposal with the "identifiable > participant" - the coordinator is responsible for detecting duplicate > registration. In the "encapsulated participant" solution, > all the info > required for comparison to see whether a message is targeted at a > [missed by scribe]..... It is more in line with the philosophy of > using EPRs, where the creator of the EPR is the one to > perform the role > of comparator. > Ian: The end-point approach seems superior to delegating that to a > coordinator, using the participant IDs which adds a burden on both the > participants and coordinator. We can solve the problem as we do now > anyway." > > Regards, > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Robinson [mailto:ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com] > > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:47 AM > > To: Knight, Paul [BL60:1A14:EXCH] > > Cc: ws-tx@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: Re: [ws-tx] Groups - Minutes - Jan. 26, 2006 > > (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) uploaded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul. > > Thanks once again from grateful chairs. See <ir>...</ir> > > > > During the discussion of issue 007, some of my words have > > been attributed > > to Alastair: > > > > " > > Ian: Summarizing: In Alastair's proposal the identifiable > > participant - > > the coordinator is responsible for detecting duplicate registration. > > > > Alastair (<ir>should still be Ian</ir>) : <ir>In</ir>The > encapsulated > > participant solution, all the info required for comparison to > > see whether a > > message is targeted at [missed]....<ir>the correct > > participant instance is > > encapsulated in the participant EPR itself. </ir>. It is more > > in line with > > the philosophy of using EPRS, where the creator of the EPR is > > the one to > > perform the role of comparator. [who?]:<ir>still Ian</ir> > > The end-point > > approach seems superior to delegating that to a > coordinator, using the > > participant IDs which adds a burden on both the participants and > > coordinator. We can solve the problem as we do now anyway. > > " > > > > Since I invented the labels "identifiable participant" and > > "encapsulated > > participant" for the purposes of distinguishing the two > positions, you > > might want to put these in quotation marks or similar. > > > > Regards, > > Ian Robinson > > STSM, WebSphere Messaging and Transactions Architect > > IBM Hursley Lab, UK > > ian_robinson@uk.ibm.com > > > > > > > > > > paul.knight@norte > > > > l.com > > > > > > To > > 27/01/2006 22:13 > > ws-tx@lists.oasis-open.org > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > [ws-tx] Groups - > > Minutes - Jan. 26, > > 2006 > > (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) > > uploaded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please contact me or send a message to the TC mailing list to submit > > corrections to the minutes. > > > > In creating this minutes document on the OASIS site, I am > > also allowing > > comments to be made to the document. This may be a useful > > facility for > > handling corrections, but it's new to me. > > If you submit corrections as a comment, please also notify me > > via email to > > be sure we track them. > > - Paul Knight > > > > -- Mr Paul Knight > > > > The document named Minutes - Jan. 26, 2006 > > (WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm) > > has been submitted by Mr Paul Knight to the OASIS Web > > Services Transaction > > (WS-TX) TC document repository. > > > > Document Description: > > > > > > View Document Details: > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-tx/document.ph > > p?document_id=16435 > > > > > > Download Document: > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-tx/download.ph > p/16435/WS-TX_Minutes_2006_01_26.htm > > > > PLEASE NOTE: If the above links do not work for you, your email > application > may be breaking the link into two pieces. 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