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Subject: RE: [wsbpel-implement] notes from implementations subgroup call Oct. 27
Sazi Temel also participated. I knew he was on the call and had his name in the notes I took but somehow missed it when I sent the note below. Also, apologies to Rajesh on the misspelling. Regards, Diane IBM Dynamic e-business Technologies drj@us.ibm.com (919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123 -----Original Message----- From: Diane Jordan [mailto:drj@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:25 PM To: bpel implementation Subject: [wsbpel-implement] notes from implementations subgroup call Oct. 27 Notes from the implementation subgroup call today: - Attendees: Sid Askary, Yaron Goland, Ugo Corda, Rania Khalaf, Rajhesh Pradham, Monica Martin - We discussed interest in holding some implementation showcase that would include interoperability and/or portability at the next face to face. Rania said she would be able to bring a proof of concept implementation she's been working on and I noted that Tony Andrews had said he or John Evdemon would bring his implementation. - Sid raised concern that participation might be impacted if TC members fear there are IP constraints. The IP terms for the BPEL4WS submission are available on the web site along with information on obtaining licensing rights and contact points for further info (with the exception of Siebel which expects to complete their review soon). Any questions should be addressed to those contacts. I took the to do to try to research how other TC's have held interop events and to try to draft a note explaining the purpose of the implementation showcase and the context (ie, private, no implied commercialization of code participating) and include a reminder that the IP info and contacts are available on the web site. I will also request an update from Jamie Clark on the IP question raised by the TC earlier. - It was suggested that the scenarios should include roles for both web service providers and BPEL engines and that it should be possible for participants to play various roles. - Once we've agreed on scenarios, we should tryto do some "rehearsals" prior to the f2f and set up a url to hold the BPEL and provide end point implementations. If all of this cannot be accomplished prior to the f2f we would still go ahead with the showcase at a more basic level. - Rania will send an email to start the discussion on what should be in the scenarios and will use the input from this to put together some initial scenarios for our consideration. We discussed some of the assumptions/groundrules for the showcase which I've listed below. I've thought of at least one additional point (last one) - please let me know if you have others. ---- the purpose is to exercise the spec and provide validation/expose problems in it to support the TC work ---- it is a private event for the TC. Correspondance and comments on it will be kept within the TC. (I will verify that the email archive is set to share with the TC only). ---- no results will be published. ---- it is intended to be a work session and not a demo. Implementations may not be complete, work may be required to complete scenarios, etc. ---- we are planing to do some prep work beforehand (to the extent possible) so as to take best advantage of the time together. This will at least involve providing scenarios to be attempted ahead of time and may include hosting some web based interactions. ---- it should be a friendly, collaborative event. ---- implementation may be prototypes or proofs of concept. They do not need to be products and there is no assumption that any will become products. ---- confidential information (eg, implementation details) should not be disclosed. Regards, Diane IBM Dynamic e-business Technologies drj@us.ibm.com (919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123
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