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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-implement] The uploaded loan approval example


Hi everyone,

I also checked the samples in the spec version 1.1 from  May and the 
draft from November  and didn't find ... or  a namespace decl for bpws 
in the root element.

-Rania

Kristofer Agren wrote:

> Bernd,
>
>  
>
> I was specifically referring to the loan approval example that was 
> part of the file scenarios12-2.zip that Rania uploaded on December 2nd.
>
>  
>
> Kristofer
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Eckenfels. Bernd [mailto:B.Eckenfels@seeburger.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:16 PM
> To: bpel implementation
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-implement] The uploaded loan approval example
>
>  
>
> Hello,
>
>  
>
> If the sample does contain the root element with namespace 
> declarations, it should present the omission of namespaces 
> declarations with ... or list all required. In case of detached 
> (functional) samples, it is of course required to be declared. Not 
> sure if Kristofer was refering to the spec or to the sample files from uc?
>
>  
>
> Greetings
>
> Bernd Eckenfels
> Chief Architect
> --
> SEEBURGER AG - Edisonstr.1 , D-75015 Bretten, Germany
> Fax: +49 (0)7252 96-2400 - Phone: +49 (0)7252 96-1256
> mailto:b.eckenfels@seeburger.de - http://www.seeburger.de 
> <http://www.seeburger.de/>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Ron Ten-Hove [mailto:Ronald.Ten-Hove@Sun.COM]
>     Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:55 PM
>     To: Ugo Corda
>     Cc: Kristofer Agren; bpel implementation
>     Subject: Re: [wsbpel-implement] The uploaded loan approval example
>
>     Ugo Corda wrote:
>
>Yes, bpws should be defined as:
>
> 
>
>xmlns:bpws="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/business-process/"; <http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/business-process/>
>
>(see Appendix D - XSD Schemas).
>
> 
>
>Examples in the spec also define it that way (see for example 16.1.2).
>
> 
>
>I think the spec uses "bpws" in many places as a shortcut for referring
>
>to the namespace URI, without mentioning the fact that the "bpws" prefix
>
>is arbitrary.
>
>  
>
>     Yes, such practice has become commonplace in XML-based specs that
>     use more than one such namespace. Such specs usually contain a
>     list of all the prefixes and namespaces used in XML fragments
>     thoughout the spec, to avoid confusion, or overly length XML
>     fragments.
>
>     Should we suggest to our editing team that they should include
>     such a list at the beginning of the WS-BPEL spec?
>
>     -Ron
>
>
>Ugo
>
> 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>From: Kristofer Agren [mailto:kagren@pakalert.com] 
>>
>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:35 PM
>>
>>To: 'bpel implementation'
>>
>>Cc: Ugo Corda
>>
>>Subject: RE: [wsbpel-implement] The uploaded loan approval example
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>Another question about the validity of the loan approval 
>>
>>BPEL; the loan approval example makes a number of called to 
>>
>>bpws:getVariableData, but the prefix "bpws" is not mapped to 
>>
>>any namespace. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>I have not found a definite answer to this in the 
>>
>>specification, where it is simply stated that the prefix is 
>>
>>"bpws" is associated with the BPEL namespace (section 9.1), 
>>
>>but it is not mentioned whether this is an assumption that 
>>
>>applies to all BPEL files (without having to do an
>>
>>xmlns:bpws="...") or just to the examples in the 
>>
>>specification. I would like to think that any namespace 
>>
>>prefix should be properly defined before used, even those 
>>
>>that are used to refer to extension functions?
>>
>> 
>>
>>Kristofer
>>
>> 
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>From: Ugo Corda [mailto:UCorda@SeeBeyond.com] 
>>
>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 4:33 PM
>>
>>To: Kristofer Agren; bpel implementation
>>
>>Subject: RE: [wsbpel-implement] The uploaded loan approval example
>>
>> 
>>
>>I agree. The Partner Link Type Schema specifies 
>>
>>elementFormDeafult="qualified", so all the local names must 
>>
>>be qualified. The syntax specified in BPEL sec. 7.1 is also 
>>
>>quite clear.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Ugo
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>From: Kristofer Agren [mailto:kagren@pakalert.com]
>>>
>>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:50 PM
>>>
>>>To: 'bpel implementation'
>>>
>>>Subject: [wsbpel-implement] The uploaded loan approval example
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>There appears to be an error in the loanapproval.wsdl and
>>>
>>>loanapprovalBound.wsdl files; the <portType> element under 
>>>
>>><plnk:role> is not in the partner link namespace:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  <plnk:role name="assessor">
>>>
>>>    <portType name="asns:riskAssessmentPT"/>
>>>
>>>  </plnk:role>   
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>Maybe I am missing something, but it should it not be:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  <plnk:role name="assessor">
>>>
>>>    <plnk:portType name="asns:riskAssessmentPT"/>
>>>
>>>  </plnk:role>   
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>Kristofer
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
> 
>
>  
>
>      
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